Any Rennlisters from New Zealand?
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#9678
As Sam mentions if I could find a proper race trailer that some one would hire then I could take the 2 sets of track wheels that we need to get to QT - save the cost of courier.
Anyone have any contacts with race trailers in Chch that wouldn't be needed 19 - 27 March?
#9679
Thanks for taking the time to find it Matt. When you write this many posts you sometimes forget whats been said....however just want to point out at no time was the debate about your 964 Vmax on the straight (you did volunteer the information which was interesting and in hindsight consistent with Johns 193-196 statement). We were debating the 996.2 GT3 Vmax after you just got it. Paul was up at 220-230 and I was debating that suggesting closer to 215. I suspect although time has moved on and the car is now likely quicker than when you got it that you will be Vmax around 220kmph on that straight these days?
As a point to note and I guess Paul will clarify this through his experience I shouldnt think the Vmax on the 993 is able to go beyond 200 kmph on that front straight at HD assumes track tyres and a 1.18 tyre lap time drive.
Remebering that there is roughly 22 bhp between a 993 and 964 at the same weight thats 4 kmph difference in Vmax. There may be a fraction of Cd involved but we cant measure it nor wind speed & direction.
John if you are at 183 when you should be at 193 and you feel its not your exit speed then you have a bigger problem than that piece of paper saying you just won the 20 bhp lottery.
I go back to the ducktail, positive pressure pocket, IATs, etc
Yes a Dyno session is the only way to sort out what your engine is making and as previous post have made some recommendations for that also. A before and after chip analysis proved very educational to me and also allowed me to see what changes the revisions Steve Wong made to the chip changed in terms of the relative output (I had it dyno'd between each revision).
John. Its your car mate. The AIM has been telling you the data and you bum has been telling you your loosing power in the afternoon sessions. Something aint 100% right. I assume youve tried other C4s for comparison. What about asking Steve to tell you if he noticed being down in power when he drove the car?
#9680
Michael is an inspiration to us all............
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#9681
Why don't we do a dyno day.
I was planning to do one for the 993, maybe we should do a group secession one morning and see if can get a group discount?? Just putting it out there?
I was planning to do one for the 993, maybe we should do a group secession one morning and see if can get a group discount?? Just putting it out there?
#9682
Matt. It was the GT3 bam we debated. I never met you before the GT3 and have never really been interested in the 964 Braxton down the straight. I only remember john telling me at HD I was hitting 196 and now I think about it the 964 were around 193 that day on track tyres.
I'm surprised Steve Wong appended that note with the chip because it's so sensationalist. 1/3 rd of all 911s are not making their full power and are 20 bhp down? Really ? The throttle opening by the way if written was true would be affecting you acceleration not just on the straight but every time your foot was on the floor which is 70% of the time on the track. Have you felt you were slower accelerating than your fellow 964?
Then there's the bit about the butterfly actually not being the limited to hp. Otherwise everyone would upgrade to bigger butterfly. It's only one in a number of factors to make peak hp. The ecu is using tps alpha tables hot film resistance pressure and temperature to calculate injector cycles and volume and ignition spark. This isn't a carny engine. Lastly when your engine was rebuilt surely deans guys would have checked all this is working ?
Then there's the vacuum operated intake manifold valve at 5500! Twaddle! It's a solinoid ie electric operated flap and it's not going to rob you above 5500. If the inlet tract stays at it's designed length you will make the same top end power. However you may benefit by an additional 2-30 bhp in the mid range if it's functioning correctly.
I'm just really surprised Steve put these in like this.
Pete my wife has trampoline and will bring them. She says she doesn't like them sachet make you spacey. No good for driving at all. Still can't work out how Phil hits the ball with them!
I'm surprised Steve Wong appended that note with the chip because it's so sensationalist. 1/3 rd of all 911s are not making their full power and are 20 bhp down? Really ? The throttle opening by the way if written was true would be affecting you acceleration not just on the straight but every time your foot was on the floor which is 70% of the time on the track. Have you felt you were slower accelerating than your fellow 964?
Then there's the bit about the butterfly actually not being the limited to hp. Otherwise everyone would upgrade to bigger butterfly. It's only one in a number of factors to make peak hp. The ecu is using tps alpha tables hot film resistance pressure and temperature to calculate injector cycles and volume and ignition spark. This isn't a carny engine. Lastly when your engine was rebuilt surely deans guys would have checked all this is working ?
Then there's the vacuum operated intake manifold valve at 5500! Twaddle! It's a solinoid ie electric operated flap and it's not going to rob you above 5500. If the inlet tract stays at it's designed length you will make the same top end power. However you may benefit by an additional 2-30 bhp in the mid range if it's functioning correctly.
I'm just really surprised Steve put these in like this.
Pete my wife has trampoline and will bring them. She says she doesn't like them sachet make you spacey. No good for driving at all. Still can't work out how Phil hits the ball with them!
..Munted back,3 blown discs, and a cage in the neck combine to create interesting pain groups.. Tramadol lasts for about 16 holes before I start to feel too much.. God knows how I would come out of a nudge like Chris's..... on all 4s probably.. As my Dad once said, I'm to scared to have a crash..
He was one of two drivers not to spin in a NZ GP, the other being Stirling Moss, and the interviewer wanted know 'how come'? He was driving his 250F Maserati so must have been a handful
#9683
Just looked at my AIM database. Firstly, seeing the original post the 190 km/hr times were on the hand held radar, not the AIM.
On the AIM I have a best recorded lap for Peter, Steve and me, where the top speeds are 183 ~ 186 km/hr. The time differences are not due to the main straight speed, it's the corner speed.
On the AIM I have a best recorded lap for Peter, Steve and me, where the top speeds are 183 ~ 186 km/hr. The time differences are not due to the main straight speed, it's the corner speed.
#9684
Cant play without them Macca
..Munted back,3 blown discs, and a cage in the neck combine to create interesting pain groups.. Tramadol lasts for about 16 holes before I start to feel too much.. God knows how I would come out of a nudge like Chris's..... on all 4s probably.. As my Dad once said, I'm to scared to have a crash..
He was one of two drivers not to spin in a NZ GP, the other being Stirling Moss, and the interviewer wanted know 'how come'? He was driving his 250F Maserati so must have been a handful
..Munted back,3 blown discs, and a cage in the neck combine to create interesting pain groups.. Tramadol lasts for about 16 holes before I start to feel too much.. God knows how I would come out of a nudge like Chris's..... on all 4s probably.. As my Dad once said, I'm to scared to have a crash..
He was one of two drivers not to spin in a NZ GP, the other being Stirling Moss, and the interviewer wanted know 'how come'? He was driving his 250F Maserati so must have been a handful
#9685
Just looked at my AIM database. Firstly, seeing the original post the 190 km/hr times were on the hand held radar, not the AIM.
On the AIM I have a best recorded lap for Peter, Steve and me, where the top speeds are 183 ~ 186 km/hr. The time differences are not due to the main straight speed, it's the corner speed.
On the AIM I have a best recorded lap for Peter, Steve and me, where the top speeds are 183 ~ 186 km/hr. The time differences are not due to the main straight speed, it's the corner speed.
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#9687
This may be the most obscure video yet, but I wanted to tell a good story. Brian at Mega Tyres has a touch less tyre machine (touching rims). He cares about doing it right and had no problem with me watching. The Fuchs are still immaculate.
#9688
Sorry John. That aside what was the difference between your car Vmax and Petes for example? Werent we trying to establish why there was a 10kmph vmax delta with your car? One would assume Steve can exit the sweeper as fast as Pete so interested to know if you still believe you are down on power....
#9689
Sorry John. That aside what was the difference between your car Vmax and Petes for example? Werent we trying to establish why there was a 10kmph vmax delta with your car? One would assume Steve can exit the sweeper as fast as Pete so interested to know if you still believe you are down on power....
I find it hard to believe that neither Peter nor Steve didn't extract the best out of the cars up the main straight. Until I have AIM data of another 964 going faster up the main straight AND having faster laps than Peter or Steve I'm calling my engine as ok. However the WOT microswitch is on the pre SITT checklist. I'll post the traces later. Right now I need to commune with family.
Last edited by John McM; 02-15-2014 at 02:44 AM.
#9690
Here are the traces. Steve 1.19.57, Peter 1.19.72, me 1.21.448. Main straight speed is not markedly different, it's the corners. No surprise there.
As for WOT, I just used my Scantool and confirmed that WOT is not triggering. It should trigger at 78% of throttle travel. I will see if I can adjust it.
As for WOT, I just used my Scantool and confirmed that WOT is not triggering. It should trigger at 78% of throttle travel. I will see if I can adjust it.