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Old 06-07-2022, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
All sub-$60K Mezgers on Rennlist classifieds now are Cabs or Tiptronics, or both: except for that one manual coupe with 115K+ miles and a picture of an eBay motor
Stenos has a nice silver/black manual coupe for $60k with 70,000 miles: https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1301619
Gray/gray turbo cab for $58k, probably priced about at market https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1303871
Black/black tiptronic, 100k miles, looks fabulous for $42: https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1303178

It's not so much the prices it's these cars are hanging around for sale a lot longer than I would have expected.
Old 06-07-2022, 02:52 PM
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I have a ram 1500 diesel.

So i can tell you that around here, stations switch from Diesel #2 to diesel #1 around march/april. They don't display which diesel they are currently selling, and some stations don't bother to switch and sell diesel #2 year round. There is no price difference between them although Diesel #2 is slightly cheaper to refine.
I know this because a few winters ago I filled up with Diesel #2 and the fuel froze all the way through the fuel lines. I told the fuel station that they shouldn't sell #2 in the winter, or at least advertise. They were unbothered. So now I carry fuel additive and I add it whenever I'm driving to cold temperatures.

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Old 06-07-2022, 02:55 PM
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Cabs & Tips aside, that $60K Silver manual coupe is a 2001 with wood interior. Both strikes, plus the Arctic Silver isn't helping any 996. It would probably fly off BaT but you know Rennlist: With 70K+ miles Rennlisters want to pay $42K max. Rennlisters always want last years prices until the car is sold and then suddenly they're all desperate to buy the car. And then after four or five years another round of desperate buyers will chime in: "Is this car still for sale??" Song remains the same on Rennlist: very, very bad place to gauge the market. Autotrader is the "driver" market, BaT is the "collector" market. If drivers are on BaT they will close way low. If collectors are on Autotrader they will sit for years.


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Stenos has a nice silver/black manual coupe for $60k with 70,000 miles: https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1301619
Gray/gray turbo cab for $58k, probably priced about at market https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1303871
Black/black tiptronic, 100k miles, looks fabulous for $42: https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1303178

It's not so much the prices it's these cars are hanging around for sale a lot longer than I would have expected.

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Old 06-07-2022, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
I wish I was a rich Taycan owner instead, they're still paying Bush prices for electricity
Not in New York
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
Cabs & Tips aside, that $60K Silver manual coupe is a 2001 with wood interior. Both strikes, plus the Arctic Silver isn't helping any 996. It would probably fly off BaT but you know Rennlist: With 70K+ miles Rennlisters want to pay $42K max. Rennlisters always want last years prices until the car is sold and then suddenly they're all desperate to buy the car. And then after four or five years another round of desperate buyers will chime in: "Is this car still for sale??" Song remains the same on Rennlist: very, very bad place to gauge the market. Autotrader is the "driver" market, BaT is the "collector" market. If drivers are on BaT they will close way low. If collectors are on Autotrader they will sit for years.
Personally, I'm not buying a modified Porsche. If it is modified, I want all the stock parts, ideally put back on before I see it.

"APR Stage 1 Tune
APR Headers
APR Exhaust
Turbo twist wheels installed at 63,000 miles, the car had some 19 inch work wheels that I hated."

I bet if the ad was missing these 4 lines, that car would be loooooong gone.
Old 06-08-2022, 07:19 AM
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No collector pays top dollar for a Chinese tune or Slovakian exhaust on any 911 Turbo

It’s yours to transform into an Encinitas drifter if you please, but then please don’t cry “recession” when it sits at $75K for ten years

Because 100% original Turbo examples fly themselves off the shelves



Originally Posted by pulpo
Personally, I'm not buying a modified Porsche. If it is modified, I want all the stock parts, ideally put back on before I see it.

"APR Stage 1 Tune
APR Headers
APR Exhaust
Turbo twist wheels installed at 63,000 miles, the car had some 19 inch work wheels that I hated."

I bet if the ad was missing these 4 lines, that car would be loooooong gone.

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Old 06-08-2022, 07:36 AM
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@pulpo makes such a good point

For whatever reason 996 owners historically believed the disinformative hype that this generation was somehow exempt from the inexorable Classic 911 appreciation curve, and so they played Legos with Pelican Parts for twenty years

Now these countless FrankenPorsches are all hitting BaT each with a pathetically longer laundry list of bozo “mods” that will take collectors decades to unwind

Type 996 was the absolute most modified 911 generation in Porsche history

And these owners will pay twice for every single one of them

IE don’t blame Nancy Pelosi (or Trump) because nobody wants to pay $45K for your Korean “tune”, or “sick” coilover “setup”













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Old 06-08-2022, 10:42 AM
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This one should be interesting:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt2-25/
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
Wow
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
... plus the Arctic Silver isn't helping any 996.
Originally Posted by Optionman1
Artic Silver? Yawn
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
That's an investment car, no one in their right mind would drive it at this point. Too bad, really. Good news for a driver car is that an ordinary 996 Turbo can be made into a GT2 tribute (only better) with parts from the dealer and a call to one of the engine tuners, for way less than the $200k this one is going to fetch.
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
This is the one to have. Mainly because of the headlights, but the low production numbers, engine, brakes, and other bits help.

Anybody want to take a guess on what it goes for? My guess is $275k plus.
Old 06-08-2022, 01:46 PM
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IMHO closer to $500K

Next sale closer to $1M

And then forget about it

It's a street-legal 962, there is nothing else like this for sale, anywhere


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This is the one to have. Mainly because of the headlights, but the low production numbers, engine, brakes, and other bits help.

Anybody want to take a guess on what it goes for? My guess is $275k plus.
Old 06-08-2022, 01:48 PM
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Why?? The "ordinary" 996 Turbo is already a 962 "tribute"

Same motor


Originally Posted by theprf
That's an investment car, no one in their right mind would drive it at this point. Too bad, really. Good news for a driver car is that an ordinary 996 Turbo can be made into a GT2 tribute (only better) with parts from the dealer and a call to one of the engine tuners, for way less than the $200k this one is going to fetch.
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
IMHO closer to $500K

Next sale closer to $1M

And then forget about it

It's a street-legal 962, there is nothing else like this for sale, anywhere
I hope so...

Someone had one on the track a few weeks ago at a PCA DE at Road America. They were careful, but what were they thinking...


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