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Old 05-30-2022, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NYoutftr
Agreed

One is coming to BAT soon
Yours! Good luck with the sale!
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Old 05-30-2022, 06:29 PM
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The cayenne is an off-road vehicle. The 996 c4s is the finest means of conveyance ever produced not only by Porsche, but by man himself.

This post contains two examples of exaggeration.
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Old 05-30-2022, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
So the Mezger “suffers” from:

1. Coolant pipes that may need to be fixed if the car is tracked seriously
2. A possible issue with 2nd gear synchro in some early cars from first 18-months of production
3. Valve guides may begin to show wear anecdotally between 141K to 180K miles.

We may thus deduce the Mezger is the most durable engine in the history of manufacturing
The 2JZ-GTE would like to have a word with you.
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Old 05-30-2022, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChunkNorris
Wow thanks for the explanation. I only knew of the first one but not the others.
Prf, +2

Nice summary! Always good to know what you may be facing with the turbo or carerra. Both exceptional cars.

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Old 05-31-2022, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Idaho911
The 2JZ-GTE would like to have a word with you.
Add K20/K24 on there. Ran mine to 220k miles with only changing the clutch and spark plugs. Even had a 100 shot of nitrous.
Old 05-31-2022, 08:04 AM
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Great motor there, but not an authentic Porsche Motorsports powerplant by any stretch

The Mezger really isn’t comparable to anything else road legal, and not much else period


Originally Posted by Idaho911
The 2JZ-GTE would like to have a word with you.

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Old 05-31-2022, 08:53 AM
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Old 05-31-2022, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
Cayenne is the only luxury vehicle on earth that can go anywhere, at 150mph+

Nothing anything like it

And if you think LeMans is brutal, imagine the Transsiberia Rally? Cayenne won on its first try in 2007. Then in 2008 Porsche Motorsports entered six more and placed 1-6

Just an absolutely amazing “all-round” off-road/Motorsports vehicle that has been completely overlooked for decades
My only two gripes are: one, the fuel mileage (18 mpg highway/18 mpg city), and two, it would be nice if there was a way to lower the ride height when traveling on highways and good paved roads.

I know there is an option for ride height, but it's not cheap and I don't have it. Otherwise, we love our beast, despite it looking like it went through the Transsiberia Rally six times.
Old 05-31-2022, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
So the Mezger “suffers” from:

1. Coolant pipes that may need to be fixed if the car is tracked seriously
2. A possible issue with 2nd gear synchro in some early cars from first 18-months of production
3. Valve guides may begin to show wear anecdotally between 141K to 180K miles.

We may thus deduce the Mezger is the most durable engine in the history of manufacturing
I would argue that:

1. The coolant pipe fittings are more of a problem with the coolant system design where it attaches to the engine. Epoxy was a bad idea.

2. The synchro is a transaxle problem and nothing to do with the engine at all.

3. Valve guide wear is pretty much a historical problem for Porsche engines with high mileage. No big deal.
Old 05-31-2022, 09:13 AM
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Yup, every engine should be so lucky as the immortal Mezger


Originally Posted by Marv
I would argue that:

1. The coolant pipe fittings are more of a problem with the coolant system design where it attaches to the engine. Epoxy was a bad idea.

2. The synchro is a transaxle problem and nothing to do with the engine at all.

3. Valve guide wear is pretty much a historical problem for Porsche engines with high mileage. No big deal.
Old 05-31-2022, 09:16 AM
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VANOS, water pump, rod bearings...

Regardless it's a wet-sump street motor


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Old 05-31-2022, 09:25 AM
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Getting back to the M96, sale prices on BAT over the long weekend were strong.
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Old 05-31-2022, 09:28 AM
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Momentum is building towards a $50K floor

Like 911, which it is


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Getting back to the M96, sale prices on BAT over the long weekend were strong.
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Old 05-31-2022, 09:50 AM
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As the buyers move from...

folks that are just excited about being able to own a 911 at a low purchase price to...

folks that have actually studied the 996, its issues and plethora of common sense cost effective solutions (IMS Solution or Retro, UAOS, UIDS, etc.)...

The demand should continue to grow knowing the M96 car is a durable no brainer if you do the "right things to it", and that pound for pound is one of the best Porsche bargains on the street. Timeless beauty, performance, handling, and cost effective service and solutions.

What more can you ask for in this day and age of expensive techno wizardry cars that you need a PhD in electrical engineering to work on it.
Old 05-31-2022, 10:09 AM
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Very true

PCM-VI infotainment, Start-Stop, Comfort-Entry, AutoMemory, PASM, Torque-Vectoring, haptic-touch displays, Entry & Drive encrypted keyfobs (up to eight, anyway), etc...

The Porsche technowizardry carnival knows no bounds these days...


Originally Posted by GC996
As the buyers move from...

folks that are just excited about being able to own a 911 at a low purchase price to...

folks that have actually studied the 996, its issues and plethora of common sense cost effective solutions (IMS Solution or Retro, UAOS, UIDS, etc.)...

The demand should continue to grow knowing the M96 car is a durable no brainer if you do the "right things to it", and that pound for pound is one of the best Porsche bargains on the street. Timeless beauty, performance, handling, and cost effective service and solutions.

What more can you ask for in this day and age of expensive techno wizardry cars that you need a PhD in electrical engineering to work on it.

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