GC996

Grey is the new power color. It means business.

Translation: By not attracting attention, you ultimately attract attention.

Marv

People can do all sorts of bad things to even a robust motor — or transmission. Improper maintenance or excessive Type II over-revs can trash a motor.

But it doesn't even need to be neglect. At 150K miles I would not be surprised if things like valve guides and timing components are wearing out. It is 21 years old.

My own car, never tracked, which I have had since it was 2 years old with 5,500 miles, had worn valve guides at 143K miles. Mobile One every 5K miles and the original clutch still good at 143K miles. That was a $20K service.

Without a comprehensive PPI we are just wild guessing its true value. It doesn't take much to salt $10K, $20K, or more, to correct normal effects of entropy on a properly cared-for Turbo. One guy on the GT3 board bought a GT3 for $35K a few years and quickly ended up adding another $30K. Still, $65K for a sorted GT3 was a good price, even then.

Hopefully it's a good buy and the new owner turns up on Rennlist.

bdronsick

There’s lot’s more “meat” in the Turbo’s top end (GT heads are honed/polished/ported out the yin-yang to squeeze HP, which sacrifices longevity). Google the YouTube video that compares them, it’s striking how much more robust the Turbo heads are

Couple that with much lower compression, & 1K less RPM redline, and the Mezger Turbo’s do tend to freaking run forever

IE the NA GT’s were never campaigned by Porsche at LeMans for a reason

GC996

They don't have any issues at all?

Just asking for a friend...

bdronsick

“We have not yet found a way to break the [turbocharged] Mezger platform, so we will continue to use it.” -Andreas Prueninger, Head of Porsche Motorsports

Mike Murphy

The turbos and intercoolers can require repairs. And some engines just don’t make it, because 100% doesn’t exist. There are plenty of expensive repairs on the turbo, just look around the turbo forums. But I agree the engines are more robust. Heck, even GT3 engines can blow up needing replacement. I heard about that happening twice to the same guy.

GC996

Sounds to me like bdron is setting up to sell his turbo before he has to repair something 🤔

bdronsick

Why would anyone in their right mind ever sell a 911 Turbo??

“From my cold dead hands”

bdronsick

Yeah and I’ve heard about myriad Mezger examples with 300K, 400K, 500K, 600K and yeah 1M miles (the million-miles Mezger story is in Excellence)

I’ll venture a guess there are more turbocharged Mezgers over 500K miles than there are with blown engines

GC996

Just saw one being towed away at Road America yesterday. They are great cars and great engines. But they have their challenges as well. My understanding is they require a small fortune to fix. But, it's only hearsay from 996 turbo owners.

joseph mitro

Saw this gt2 at the track this weekend

Ogr8frogy

You are not wrong about that, I’d say about 95% of a turbo car is the same as a standard 996 for repair cost and maintenance, it’s that last 5% that gets really expensive really quickly.
such items as transmission and it doesn’t matter tip or manual. $10k and up easily
Brakes depending if you have the PCCB’s or not. $1k for pads for PCCB’s and rotors well I haven’t priced them lately they were about $5k each.
Then of course the engine is a different can of worms, yes it’s a better motor but also more expensive to repair.

bdronsick

“saw one being towed away at Road America”

Flat tire? Out of fuel? We can rule out the intermediate shaft bearing right away

GC996

Nope. Just like every single model of Porsche regardless of engine, they do break from time to time. Even the mythical Mezgers. And some even cost more to repair than others.

bdronsick

Guess this will remain a mystery, or perhaps it collided at 200mph with a small meteor