Any Rennlisters from New Zealand?
11-19-2013, 02:18 AM
#6197
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Ive never done any trackwork or "spirited driving" on back roads but am pretty keen to do Targa Tour 2014 (the other half will take some convincing), just wondering weather the 964 is up to it and weather I want to put it through that. Im off to a wedding in the Coromandel this weekend and if the weathers good will take the 964, may try and stop in at HD on my way home and see what the fuss is about.
I drove from Auckland to Wellington and back with the intention of getting a feel for my car. Worked wonders. I can't say I have the restraint to stay away from spirited driving however. On returning from Wellington my partner suggested I must be tired and feel like it was a long trip, but to be honest I felt I could have just kept on driving!
11-19-2013, 04:13 AM
#6198
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I'm in the same boat around track work; always something I've wanted to try but worried about the financial impact it would have long term, in that I'll become addicted and I wouldn't be able to sustain it. Need to do at least one or two next year, but think a driver training day is a good start. I drove from Auckland to Wellington and back with the intention of getting a feel for my car. Worked wonders. I can't say I have the restraint to stay away from spirited driving however. On returning from Wellington my partner suggested I must be tired and feel like it was a long trip, but to be honest I felt I could have just kept on driving!
I've done some driver training days and they are great (Mt Cotton in Queensland, and Porsche club here). The Porsche Club ones are great value but usually only one day per year. And the commercial ones are pretty expensive, eg $1200 per day. Our track days cost under $200 in fees, plus fuel and wear and tear. And you can always get one of the more experienced group members to go out on huge track with you and give you some pointers. But much of there learning comes from experience, talking, following, observing and just doing it.
However, don't be afraid of doing some track days.... The way we do them it's an opportunity to explore the potential of your car, driving in one direction with no opposing traffic, with wide run offs should you make a bad mistake.... Ie very safe conditions vs spirited driving on the he road. We are insured with a $5k excess (and some rules to abide by). The group are happy for you to drive to your comfort level.... We mostly compete with ourselves, trying to improve our lines and times, and talk about all things Porsche and driving at the track.
I think you can see from these posts that you'd be very welcome :-)
11-19-2013, 04:20 AM
#6199
Pel - be interested to hear what sort of scope you went through to fix the aircon. Mine finally died a few months back and Pete B has confirmed its a fuel tank out job - big $'s. So if you're keen to share costs on that bit - send me a pm. At the moment its summer and I'm happy just to drive with the windows open!
Will be interesting to see how long it lasts as I was expecting to pay thousands for the tank out fix, at least one pleasant surprise.
11-19-2013, 04:28 AM
#6200
Would be good to see you at HD. Not sure about your circle of friends but outside RSG no one is interested or understands my Porsche obsession. Track days are what you want them to be. Your car was designed with a bigger performance envelope than cruising at 109km/hr or cornering with a bit of attitude. At the track you can safely exploit that performance. You can also learn some basic driving skills. I would not go on public roads at Targa Tour speeds without knowing my car's capabilities. The track is the perfect place to practice.
I will get there in the near future, 100% aware that I need to get some track time under me before driving at speed on roads with a passenger.
11-19-2013, 04:32 AM
#6201
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As for your post on clear indicators. I think it works on coloured cars e.g. Dave's red C2, but not as much on the GP White cars.
11-19-2013, 04:39 AM
#6202
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My approach might have been a little different than the others. I'm into my second boxster, a 2007 987.1 Boxster S with only 75k and one careful owner (prior to me) which cost me just under $50k. I've invested in a set of track wheels ~$3k, racing brake fluid and both Pagid sports brake pads and Porsche ones for daily driving (the sport ones squeak when used for daily driving and makes the car sound like a bus around town) and are happy to keep it at that and enjoy the driving. Preventative maintenance is higher with more oil and filter changes, and brake pads and rotors. Guys with older cars tend to spend quite a lot getting them to the spec they want.... It can become an obsession IMO :-). I'm getting about 10 track days out of a set of track tyres. They're much cheaper than road tyres and better on the track. Your can drive there and home on them. They also save the expense of chewing up expensive road tyres and also having much better track performance. I'm getting about 5+track days out of a set of Pagid brake pads but only 3 out of my last Porsche factory pads. I don't know how long out of a set of rotors yet, but I suspect a couple of years at my rate. Macca is amazing at sourcing parts from overseas and many of us import parts, pads, tyres etc by buying on-line.
I've done some driver training days and they are great (Mt Cotton in Queensland, and Porsche club here). The Porsche Club ones are great value but usually only one day per year. And the commercial ones are pretty expensive, eg $1200 per day. Our track days cost under $200 in fees, plus fuel and wear and tear. And you can always get one of the more experienced group members to go out on huge track with you and give you some pointers. But much of there learning comes from experience, talking, following, observing and just doing it.
However, don't be afraid of doing some track days.... The way we do them it's an opportunity to explore the potential of your car, driving in one direction with no opposing traffic, with wide run offs should you make a bad mistake.... Ie very safe conditions vs spirited driving on the he road. We are insured with a $5k excess (and some rules to abide by). The group are happy for you to drive to your comfort level.... We mostly compete with ourselves, trying to improve our lines and times, and talk about all things Porsche and driving at the track.
I think you can see from these posts that you'd be very welcome :-)
I've done some driver training days and they are great (Mt Cotton in Queensland, and Porsche club here). The Porsche Club ones are great value but usually only one day per year. And the commercial ones are pretty expensive, eg $1200 per day. Our track days cost under $200 in fees, plus fuel and wear and tear. And you can always get one of the more experienced group members to go out on huge track with you and give you some pointers. But much of there learning comes from experience, talking, following, observing and just doing it.
However, don't be afraid of doing some track days.... The way we do them it's an opportunity to explore the potential of your car, driving in one direction with no opposing traffic, with wide run offs should you make a bad mistake.... Ie very safe conditions vs spirited driving on the he road. We are insured with a $5k excess (and some rules to abide by). The group are happy for you to drive to your comfort level.... We mostly compete with ourselves, trying to improve our lines and times, and talk about all things Porsche and driving at the track.
I think you can see from these posts that you'd be very welcome :-)
Count Shaun and John's fun and games - and you are close to 1 in 3..........??
We are worse than the racers..........??
11-19-2013, 04:45 AM
#6203
That's why this forum and RSG are so important!
11-19-2013, 03:14 PM
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11-19-2013, 03:24 PM
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Thanks for your comments, some close-ups of the black 17" Fuchs below - same as Johns ? (FuchsFelge)
I was a bit nervous how they'd look on the 993 but quite natural in the flesh, esp. with lowered suspension. Had only seen their 18" Fuchs on 993's which IMHO don't work so well - proportions wrong for that wheel style.
The 17's are a nice change for round-town everyday driving; and a quick workout with trolley jack to get the 18's on for bigger adventures. They and the FD exhaust system may find their way onto a RHD 993 for NZ but not sure where I'll source the one which ticks all my boxes.
Price of good UK cars is getting silly but offset by similar for my LHD - very few manuals here now as most exported back to Europe and people waking up to that. I estimate 40% appreciation of top condition 993's over past 3 years in UK/Europe, but similar for other classic models - very cheap credit and super inflated UK real estate is pushing it along.
I was a bit nervous how they'd look on the 993 but quite natural in the flesh, esp. with lowered suspension. Had only seen their 18" Fuchs on 993's which IMHO don't work so well - proportions wrong for that wheel style.
The 17's are a nice change for round-town everyday driving; and a quick workout with trolley jack to get the 18's on for bigger adventures. They and the FD exhaust system may find their way onto a RHD 993 for NZ but not sure where I'll source the one which ticks all my boxes.
Price of good UK cars is getting silly but offset by similar for my LHD - very few manuals here now as most exported back to Europe and people waking up to that. I estimate 40% appreciation of top condition 993's over past 3 years in UK/Europe, but similar for other classic models - very cheap credit and super inflated UK real estate is pushing it along.
