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Not sure this one been posted already? Probably get it for $26K. Manual NZ new 996. Make great base for some fun. First stop...remove weight....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-975728945.htm

 

Too many km for me. Been there done that with the 996TT. I'm still partial to the C4S. Only another $20k http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-980425179.htm

 

Tim. Thanks for that. Very interesting. I read all 20 pages of it tonight. That some very aggressive stripping to take out 200kg. I mean everything has gone including half the wiring. Few things I thought were too extreme including full HVACs (heat) and front and rear bumper bars and struts.

However the list is very interesting for a 993/964 owner contemplating weight removal.

I think I did ok getting 100+ nett (after additions) out of mine without taking out anything that couldnt be easily removed whilst retaining heat, sunroof, rear wiper, air con, sound deadening, and stereo. The theread has definitely helped me understand how I can get to 1295kg with full tank and half cage etc.

180kg/2590-2601lbs
10g Carrera 2 rear badge
2497g rear wiper assy (wiring still to be removed)
9018g stereo system including centre tunnel tape holder and a Del Amitri cassette tape left by the PO (wiring and radio metal chassis still to be removed)
212g pair of alumnium carpet edging cover strips
797g pair of sun visors
3614g rear parcel shelf
1877g front footwell carpet mats and brackets
576g pair of front corner carpet trip covering heating ducting
342g pair of engine lid gas struts, mtg pins and clips
702g fuel tank plastic protection shroud
98g wire plastic shroud under VIN in front trunk
189g ABS unit plastic shroud
24g wire plastic shroud between battery and front bulkhead
37g fuel cap flexible flap cover
2669g engine bay heater fan unti, ducting, mtg bolts
1631g engine bay sound deadening
1888g heater flaps, jubilee clips and donkey dick to heat exchanger
1947g metal tubes and jubilee clips from heat exchanger to engine bay tin
708g various engine under tray mounting brackets
89g spoiler mechanism plastic shroud
0.414kg interior trim cappings below side rear windows
3.305kg rear bulkhead internal sound deadening (car louder but not annoyingly so but this may change when I remove the rear seats)
2.425kg interior rear wheel arch trim
0.615kg inner door sill carpets
0.727kg drivers footwell carpet
0.141kg carpet behind pedals
0.672kg front passenger floor carpet
2.204kg front passenger floor sound deadening
0.279kg heating donkey dick from dash to cill inc. jubilee clips, pair
0.106kg plastic sill vents below rear side window, pair
1.961kg heating donkey dick insulated ducting inside the cill, pair
5.100kg rear bumper aluminium beam (not inc. fixings)
0.800kg rear bumper beam mounting tubes, pair (not inc. fixings)
4.700kg engine under tray (not inc. fixings)
0.258kg set of 4 wheel centre caps (not orginal Porsche parts)
1.550kg passenger seat electrical motors, drive cables, wiring loom and steel mounting bracket
0.024kg cigarette lighter
0.285kg ashtray and dash holder
0.895kg pair of rear floor carpets
0.055kg diagnostic plug steel mounting bracket
9.332kg rear seat area and rear foor sound deadening (not including rear bullkhead area)
0.220kg carpet behind rear sear bases
0.609kg pair of carpets outboard of rear seat bases
0.232kg pair of carpets below and forward of rear seat bases
1.171kg pair of leather seat bases
6.170kg pair of leather seat backs including outboard bolt (not including centre sprung pin bracket, will add this to the weight as I forgot)
0.742kg sunroof air defelector, front sunroof metal surround
0.182kg plastuc outer sill protectors
2.098kg pair of rear seatblets including mounting bolts/washers
0.142kg drivers footwell battery cable shroud
0.449kg sunroof motor cover panels
0.768kg central tunnel carpet (not completely removed)
3.229kg central tunnel sound deadening (not completely removed)
0.156kg pair of rear seat locking pins
1.548kg drivers seat electric motors, cables and steel cross member
0.044kg leather swatch sample under the drivers seat
1.500kg drivers floor pan sound deadening
0.087kg B-pillar vinyl trim
0.935kg radio chassis and some wiring
0.318kg bitumen sound deadening strip on central tunnel LHS
0.108kg spare wheel clamp and bolt
0.113kg ABS pump plastic cover
1.682kg alumnium jack
0.471kg kack handle
0.601kg wheel brace
13.487kg spare wheel
1.973kg tool roll
0.135kg steel battery cable shroud under the spare wheel
0.770kg sunroof motor and mounting bracket
0.273kg bitumen sound deadening strip on central tunnel RHS
0.681kg bitumen sound deadening on rear floor behind front seats, pair
1.976kg sound deadening under dash and front wheel arch area (still some left behind the pedals)
0.708kg plywood pedal board
1.2kg tyre pump kit
1.169kg pair of door pocket lids
1.875kg pair of door pockets
0.423kg pair of door speaker wiring mystery junction boxes
0.042kg Porsche bonnet badge
0.916kg glove box lid
0.976kg steel ECU tray inder passenger seat
0.049kg plastic bracket under brake fluid reservoir (really not sure why this is fitted)
0.355kg more stereo wiring
0.044kg brake and clutch pedal rubber pads
0.445kg HVAC unitl plastic shroud and bonnet rubber seal
2.791kg alarm boxes, immobiliser, wiring and sensors
4.024kg pair of interior door panels and door interior handles
1.159kg pair of interior door tops
0.351kg pair of bonnet gas struts
0.093kg under dash HVAC duct, rhs above drivers feet
10kg cup bypass exhaust pipe (rounded down as removed by previous owner)
0.040kg bonnet light
0.064kg steel electric connector bracket in front of RHS bonnet hinge
0.095kg HVAC duct LHS dash corner
0.109kg HVAC duct diffuser above passengers feet
0.082kg HVAC duct diffuser above drivers feet
0.067kg steel electrical box bracket above passengers feet
0.339kg pair of door central locking solenoids
1.730kg extra windscreen and headlight washer reservoir and piping under the front wing
0.861kg front suspension/steering undertray
0.129kg centre tunnel interior handbrake tray
0.378kg pair of air deflectors for front brakes (one was already missing and it made no difference)
0.030kg radiator bracket that served no purpose
1.870kg centre tunnel floor steel cover plate
0.495kg centre tunnel forward interior trim cover panel
0.302kg steel loom/relay bracket under above trim panel
0.779kg centre tunnel, pedal and RHS front wheel arch sound deadening
0.050kg more radio wiring
0.119kg pair of interior roof courtesy lights
0.095kg headlight beam vacuum adjustment tubing and switch (still have headlight diaphram actuators to remove)
0.120kg HVAC duct through bulkhead on RHS side
0.115kg HVAC duct through bulkhead on LHS side
0.510kg roof lining and roof sound deadening (not inc. sun roof lining, A, B or C pillar covering, just the roof lining)
0.037kg spot welded steel spare tyre mounting bracket
0.075kg spot welded steel bracket under RHS front chassis leg
0.025kg B pillar coat hooks, pair
0.005kg metal self adhesive spare tyre inflation instructions label
0.866kg bitumen door sound deadening, pair
0.110kg trim, sound deadening and carpet at the base of A-pillar
0.302kg pair of steel flanges at the base of the B-pillar
0.120kg bonnet slam panel plastic cover
0.012kg pair of plastic pop-riveted brackets under bonnet slam panel
0.987kg HVAC control unit (non-aircon spec.)
0.691kg HVAC heat sink
8.537kg HVAC unit, inc. wiring loom, ducting to bulkhead and drain tubes (non-aircon spec.)
1.555kg front fuse box bulkhead section cut off leaving only the fuse box housing
0.064kg pair heated windscreen washer jets wiring leads
0.161kg excess washer jet tubing after deleting the underwing washer bottle
0.852kg front cat heatshield
1.087kg cat lower aero sheet steel cover
2.50kg pair of front wheel arch liners including fixings
0.368kg LH rear plastic lower engine shroud and fixings
0.352kg RH rear plastic lower engine shroud and fixings
0.582kg RH plastic lower engine shroud and fixings
0.444kg pair of bumper mounting to chassis rail reinforcing steel tubes
0.025kg rear under tray steel mounting bracket (forward engine position)
0.102kg radio chassis steel surround
0.219kg pair of HVAC dash vents, ones nearest the doors
5.062kg front aluminium bumper beam and mounting bolts
0.917kg front bumper steel mounting tubes, mounting bolts and gaskets
0.388kg large horn and steel mounting bracket (a bracket on a bracket )
0.349kg steel mounting bracket for horns
0.050kg foam front bumper in fill pieces
0.246kg headlight washer nozzles and tubing in the front bumper
0.387kg LH dash knee pad
0.406kg RH dash knee pad
1.09kg front fog light delete, pair (thank you previous owner)
0.156kg sunroof drain tubes (2 front and 2 rear)
0.195kg spot welded brackets from rear seat area (not incl. large rear seat central pivot bracket and seat belt inertia mounting brackets)
0.206kg C pillar roof interior trim
0.772kg pair of steel front brake disc shields
0.234kg pair of aluminium rear brake disc shields
0.211kg rear bumper centre section lower edge steel strip
0.268kg sunroof wiring loom from motor to rear bulkhead connector
0.253kg pair of door window inner felt seals
0.115kg spot welded steel rear seat centre pivot bracket
0.223kg internal door lock rotary **** and linkage to door latch

0.360g passenger door mirror and central locking wiring loom

0.535kg drivers door wiring loom (deleted mirror, central locking and passenger window switch wiring)
2.443kg rear wiper/wash wiring, sun roof, electric seat wiring, cut everything just short of the rear bulkhead and fuse box. Also didn't go as far as into the dash where the switches are.
68g rear window demister loom (up to dash only)
383g glove box and steel mounting strap
568g plastic heat shield between CAT and engine
847g steel heat shield between CAT and engine
3012g charcoal canister delete, all pipe work and breather tank on top of fuel tank (will need to block off the various open pipes also need to work out where to fit a rollover valve for the fuel tank)
5316g CAT and lamda sensor with loom (will need to add a straight through pipe and refit the lamda sensor

weight removed running 206.375kg or 455lbs

 

On the contrary as both are M96 and could lunch their engine any time Id take the "purer" 2WD with the higher KMs. When the engine needed doing I would have 20K in my pocket and could apply all the known remedies to make it track durable. Id also be 70+kg ahead of the game in weight....

 

John. I wonder if you weight was sans spare wheel/toolkit/pump etc at the weight station. That stuff is around 20kg...

 

Which brings us back to why Doug bought Lola. Dry sump, proven mezger engine and upright headlights. Doesn't get any better.

 

Yes but you cannot buy 964 C2 for $26K and the 996 with weight thrown out no cost (i.e. rear seats, carpet etc) will do under 1.20 at HD well driven...??

 

Until it lunches itself....

Two cars I remember from the RSG early days that made no more than 2 meets, a turbo kitted Boxster and a 996. I think the latter was owned by someone called Lance. Peter M didn't have much luck with his gen 1 engine either. Just saying. Meanwhile the Integra motors must keep on going. BB did 680 laps of HD and we couldn't kill her. BB2 did 2.5 hours of racing today and Ray circulated in 1.22 in his today as well. Many different ways to skin the track cat, many of them less expensive that a M96.

 

Could well have been. That would leave 50kg to account for. Seats are between 30 & 38kg saving depending on whether I had one or two in there. Ducktail weighs 6kg which must be a saving on the tin deck. Lwf? Cup pipe? Rear seat backs? Doesn't look too hard.

 

If we are looking outside of Porsche then an Integra R on Dot R will be as quick as the current crop of 964 for 17k. I met a young fellow at HD in September whilst getting a coffee at the cart, running a basically stock R on 888s with bucket seats who's PB in that car was 1.19.78.

Dougs been running boxsters for years on the track with no issues. The problems no doubt arise when you are starting to push on.

Guess its just the luck of the draw. Till recently Porsche would supply you a factory refurb swap out engine for under 20k. CCS fitted a few of these over the years.

 

We shared a pit garage with a honda civic yesterday. 180kw - no turbo- quad throttle bodies - and 1.10's

 

^^^^^he wasn't in the 2 k cup of course - super laps

 

I'm having a lot of trouble deciding on a gold for the wheels i'm looking at. I have some example disks. The left is 'Gold' the right 'Light Metallic Gold'. When against my car the Gold pops a little more than the LMG. The LMG has a lot of metallic flake on certain angles in bright sunlight.

Both change saturation slightly when viewed from different angles and in different light. Man, gold is such a difficult colour. Its particularly difficult to photograph and get a representative image

I've also attached a vid of a similar wheel that i took. This wheel is in Gold. Sadly i haven't seen an LMG live as all work wheels are custom made

Ideally i like something as close the the BBS E88 if anyone has seen one live?

Any opinions?