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So I have about 18 months until I'm a road cone to other Caymans?
I took Donna for a short ride in the R and half floored it coming out of a corner. Both hands rose the same way Jo's did in Macca's videos. No way I can convince her that more power is needed.
The Cayman has to be the 944 replacement for longer term racing at lower levels doesn't it? Engine swaps etc could make monster machines as well.
I took Donna for a short ride in the R and half floored it coming out of a corner. Both hands rose the same way Jo's did in Macca's videos. No way I can convince her that more power is needed.
The Cayman has to be the 944 replacement for longer term racing at lower levels doesn't it? Engine swaps etc could make monster machines as well.
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So I have about 18 months until I'm a road cone to other Caymans? I took Donna for a short ride in the R and half floored it coming out of a corner. Both hands rose the same way Jo's did in Macca's videos. No way I can convince her that more power is needed. The Cayman has to be the 944 replacement for longer term racing at lower levels doesn't it? Engine swaps etc could make monster machines as well.
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I've been talking to Robin this morning about the tune on Herman. The brief is to use the envelope afforded by the better management of fuel and spark but absolutely retain drivability. If it keeps the 964 marauders behind me at HD, then job done, but I'm under no illusions about the newer cars being better performers no matter what I throw at Herman.
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I've been talking to Robin this morning about the tune on Herman. The brief is to use the envelope afforded by the better management of fuel and spark but absolutely retain drivability. If it keeps the 964 marauders behind me at HD, then job done, but I'm under no illusions about the newer cars being better performers no matter what I throw at Herman.
The vintage models were our wives John and tapping out is what Donnas hands were doing....
For the 964 tuning I already have all the T shirts in this series, fill your boots, The R will romp all over it on the track although its always nice to have a little more throttle sensitivity and a flatter torque curve. It will be interesting to see what Robin can do on the dyno.
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The GT3RS will use same engine as GT3 taken to 4.0L making 500-515 bhp. Car is based on turbo body with magnesium composite double bubble roof, CF front guards and bonnet and the rest similar alloy construction as with GT3. Weight will be approx 1400kg. Rear wheels 325 on 21 and fronts 265 on 20. Car has significant aero advantage over GT3 which combined with modified PDK-S will give a Ring a Time around 7.15. No manual. It looks like both current GT3 and new RS may be last cars without electronic or mechanical power assistance. RS launches 3 March Geneva production starting April with deliveries starting May. RHD cars will not arrive in NZ till September. nZ retail will start around 330k plus options. I would expect 8-10 NZ deliveries and I believe the allocation for NZ is more of less sold. This will bs a very focussed track car to differentiate it from GT3 which is a very useable car on the street. Will be a tech fest with much exotic fabrication and an incredible presence in person....
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The Hatz interview was a hatchet job. Poor translation, confused questions, misleading answers. the 991 GT3RS engine is a modified 991 GT3 unit which again is a modified 9A1 unit. They will likely use some of the 991 GT3 tech in the new 9A2? engine which will form the base of the 991.2 turbo engines rolling out later this year. My that I mean separate dry sump, baffles, top end drive-train gear and some of the reinforced bottom end journals and crank/rod components. The RS engine expands on the GT3 engine by way of capacity increase and subsequently some bottom end strengthening such as fastenings etc (incidentally believed to be now in the new GT3 engines!). The 9A1 architecture has been around for 5 years now and proven extremely reliable. The GT3/RS iteration is just a evolutionary step to this and will form the basis of PAGs flat 6 motor sports efforts from 2016 if they decide to push on with the 911 as a completion platform. As far as I understand there is NO MANUAL scheduled for series production on the 991 GT3RS. My sources are pretty certain of that. Hatz reference may be to keep the troupes happy or indeed refer to a limited run GT3 later in the 991.2 generation GT cycle. Interestingly those who have actually DRIVEN the new 991 GT3 (and soon RS) for any period of time will tell you the box is killer and the tech is transparent - the car feels organic like the technology isn't even there. Large groups of the RL 997 GT3 "faithful" are now rolling over to the 991 GT3 and their feedback has been unanimous. Most people tha have tried it absolutely lve the PDK-S in the new GT3 (its quite different from normal PDK and has a much more manual feel about it, slips the clutch, no creep etc). I very much doubt PAG will go to a manual again form this model as the PDK-S integrates with a number of systems and subsequently through this holistic architecture produces performance well beyond what it should with "only" 468 bhp. the 991 GT3 has become the benchmark car on road and track for the likes of EVO and others against cars costing over twice the price. The interesting thing is the car is only now starting to get cult following after its been discontinued so the 991 GT3RS will pick up from there and run with it - it will be a car that kills everything save the $1-3m hypercars!
For you last question only PAG product planners could tell you the answer. I believe the NA GT car is safe for the 991.2 generation but will benefit from mechanical or electrical multiplication technologies, probably capacitor or battery fed and likely in the drive-train at the gearbox end to keep the feeling organic.
From MY2016 the 911 becomes turbo charged (light pressure). the "Turbo" model will still exist (high pressure). Porsche has become confident this last generation it can lock down the ECUs sy=ufficently to keep the tuners at bay. The big question is will there be a GT2/RS model....
For you last question only PAG product planners could tell you the answer. I believe the NA GT car is safe for the 991.2 generation but will benefit from mechanical or electrical multiplication technologies, probably capacitor or battery fed and likely in the drive-train at the gearbox end to keep the feeling organic.
From MY2016 the 911 becomes turbo charged (light pressure). the "Turbo" model will still exist (high pressure). Porsche has become confident this last generation it can lock down the ECUs sy=ufficently to keep the tuners at bay. The big question is will there be a GT2/RS model....
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The vintage models were our wives John and tapping out is what Donnas hands were doing.... For the 964 tuning I already have all the T shirts in this series, fill your boots, The R will romp all over it on the track although its always nice to have a little more throttle sensitivity and a flatter torque curve. It will be interesting to see what Robin can do on the dyno.
I can't bring myself to modify the R so Herman will continue to be fettled. I'm not sure to what end. Not sure there needs to be a goal.
Now that I'm on the newer model conveyor belt I can't see myself getting off and going back to Herman for hard track work unless other 964s attend. They have been few and far between lately.
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John - you're being too tough - it hasn't been 6 weeks yet with the SC.......
Though in fairness, Dave - the crafty salesman that he is did let me drive the SC to HD the other day (just to see how it went compared to the C3) and I did find myself saying let me know when you want to sell it (and not 'if'.....)
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I have never been tempted to compare Donna's bottom with a Porsche. Big hips only go down well as a description on a car. That's why I'm still married
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From MY2016 the 911 becomes turbo charged (light pressure). the "Turbo" model will still exist (high pressure). Porsche has become confident this last generation it can lock down the ECUs sufficiently to keep the tuners at bay. The big question is will there be a GT2/RS model....
Matt and Pete - I looked into both the Maramarua rally school and Roger Davis' Patetonga sprint car experience just before Christmas. Keen to gang up if others are thinking about it too.
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It was meant to be an 8 week job, not 8 months.............
John - you're being too tough - it hasn't been 6 weeks yet with the SC.......
Though in fairness, Dave - the crafty salesman that he is did let me drive the SC to HD the other day (just to see how it went compared to the C3) and I did find myself saying let me know when you want to sell it (and not 'if'.....)
John - you're being too tough - it hasn't been 6 weeks yet with the SC.......
Though in fairness, Dave - the crafty salesman that he is did let me drive the SC to HD the other day (just to see how it went compared to the C3) and I did find myself saying let me know when you want to sell it (and not 'if'.....)