View Poll Results: what do you think?
really clean, nice looking Vette....
174
31.46%
a very different Vette but we'll sure as hell take it.
165
29.84%
i'll be ordering one soon.......
98
17.72%
No thank you
116
20.98%
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Thoughts on the new corvette?
07-25-2019, 06:11 PM
#1546
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Why anyone is rushing to buy this car is beyond me.
Even a regular gen switch has issues (heck GM never got the current gen full size SUV right and those came out five years ago), never mind a brand new architecture.
Plus they'll be heavily discounted within a year.
Even a regular gen switch has issues (heck GM never got the current gen full size SUV right and those came out five years ago), never mind a brand new architecture.
Plus they'll be heavily discounted within a year.
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07-25-2019, 06:22 PM
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Unless you already have a deposit on one, you won't be one of the first. I called a large Corvette dealer in MD and was told that they already had over 50 people who had deposits. So unless you have a deposit on a C8, you won't be owning one of the first C8s. OTOH there may be some small dealer that has just a couple of C8 allocations that may be selling to anyone who is willing to pay a significant ADM. But the big boys who are selling at MSRP have lots and lots of buyers in queue.
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07-25-2019, 06:29 PM
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I've been in a number of base Boxster and 996/997's with that dab gray bland interior that had me scratching my head wondering how this very much Honda Civic-esk interior was somehow superior to any Corvette.
Even my friends 1996 Corvette has a nicer interior than some base model Porsche's I've seen. Yes I went there, comparing the C4 to any Porsche. The line for pitchforks forms on the left, torches on the right.
My neighbor just picked up a 2019 Z28, no hard plastic to be found and deviated stitching all over the place.
I've been in a number of base Boxster and 996/997's with that dab gray bland interior that had me scratching my head wondering how this very much Honda Civic-esk interior was somehow superior to any Corvette.
Even my friends 1996 Corvette has a nicer interior than some base model Porsche's I've seen. Yes I went there, comparing the C4 to any Porsche. The line for pitchforks forms on the left, torches on the right.
My neighbor just picked up a 2019 Z28, no hard plastic to be found and deviated stitching all over the place.
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07-25-2019, 06:30 PM
#1549
Yes, no epiphany, just surprising that gm can deliver such a high performance mid engine car at that price point. This along with the 911’s increasing base price highlights this gap even more.
I know it’s not the same car but think where ford is pricing their mid engine car, and it won’t perform much better, if at all, than a C8 Z06/ZR1.
I know it’s not the same car but think where ford is pricing their mid engine car, and it won’t perform much better, if at all, than a C8 Z06/ZR1.
It's a double edged sword though, with the prices of 911's increasing. It helps to preserve the values on the outgoing models, which translates in to less depreciation for the owners. I don't care how cheap a car is to buy, what I care about is how much value it loses in the time I would own it, and Vette's always loose a lot of value.
For me it is the opposite, I am considering the C8 because it is midengine (MR) with good power.
Have driven the C7 equipped with the Z51 package and Magnetic Ride Control suspension at Sonoma Raceway, the car handled well for a FR car, but I didn't like the driving dynamics of the car. Not been able to put the power down early as in a midengine car, having to trail brake to get the car to rotate. I also looked at the C7 Z06 when it came out, and that bulging hood was a non starter for me.
Have been on the list for a PDK GT4/GT4RS for close to 4 years, with the C8 specs been released last week and the pricepoint that it is been offered at I am seriously considering it over the GT4. I suspect that the C8 Z51 version with MRC will be a 1:35-1:36 car at Laguna given that the weight is only about 100lbs more compared to the F458 which had slightly more horsepower but is down relatively in torque, similar MR based active suspension double wishbone F/R vs double wishbone/multi link, similar concept e-diffs, etc.
The car been mass produced vehicle should result in lower cost for consumables like pads/rotors/wheels/tires. I will wait for the Corvette Tour (if it happens) or just go to Spring Mountain in NV and beat up on a C8 for a day or two to see if I enjoy the car at the track.
Have driven the C7 equipped with the Z51 package and Magnetic Ride Control suspension at Sonoma Raceway, the car handled well for a FR car, but I didn't like the driving dynamics of the car. Not been able to put the power down early as in a midengine car, having to trail brake to get the car to rotate. I also looked at the C7 Z06 when it came out, and that bulging hood was a non starter for me.
Have been on the list for a PDK GT4/GT4RS for close to 4 years, with the C8 specs been released last week and the pricepoint that it is been offered at I am seriously considering it over the GT4. I suspect that the C8 Z51 version with MRC will be a 1:35-1:36 car at Laguna given that the weight is only about 100lbs more compared to the F458 which had slightly more horsepower but is down relatively in torque, similar MR based active suspension double wishbone F/R vs double wishbone/multi link, similar concept e-diffs, etc.
The car been mass produced vehicle should result in lower cost for consumables like pads/rotors/wheels/tires. I will wait for the Corvette Tour (if it happens) or just go to Spring Mountain in NV and beat up on a C8 for a day or two to see if I enjoy the car at the track.
see what your saying but I think its the fact that quality continues to increase and the dynamics of the drive will now match up better. I always thought C7 Vettes were cool but the long hood/design/dynamics just weren't to my liking. this changes that and I'm in the camp that thinks the new interior looks great. BIG question from me is does that new interior actually FEEL great when you are in it. Because again, 992 interior doesn't feel that great.
07-25-2019, 06:45 PM
#1550
There are zero factory
discounts on the plentiful and dated outgoing C7 GS, Z06 or ZR1s.. Maybe corporate is reading the haters of the C8 on the 'Vette forums thinking "You want a front engine you're gonna have to pay for it!"
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07-25-2019, 06:51 PM
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Today their survival is hardly threatened, but the lower-spec Porsche interiors are still nothing to brag about. It costs a small fortune to make these cars look genuinely classy inside... and even then you still have to worry about multi-thousand-dollar repair bills for door panels, headliners, headlight delamination, and whatever other
The big problems with the C7 weren't related to the interior quality or the engine placement. What kept it from being taken seriously was its crappy slushbox transmission and Conestoga-era suspension. The new mid-engine architecture is a big step forward, but the real news is that the core mechanical shortcomings have been fixed.
It still looks like something a high-school kid doodled while sitting in detention for drawing naked girls on his locker the day before. But the important thing is that they now have a credible sports/GT platform for the very first time in the history of the marque. That is the game-changer. The MR engine layout and the strong value proposition are just icing on the cake.
Pretty exciting stuff IMO. I would be mailing out resumes right about now, if I worked on the 718 team.
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07-25-2019, 06:53 PM
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07-25-2019, 07:01 PM
#1553
OK removing foot from mouth although that looks like dealer specific discounts. They ain't #1 for nuttin'.
I only saw $3K on Stingrays for current owners
07-25-2019, 07:02 PM
#1554
It only takes a couple of problems and a small amount of complaining to get a 100K mile warranty out of GM
There are zero discounts on the plentiful and dated outgoing C7 GS, Z06 or ZR1s.. Maybe corporate is reading the haters of the C8 on the 'Vette forums thinking "You want a front engine you're gonna have to pay for it!"
There are zero discounts on the plentiful and dated outgoing C7 GS, Z06 or ZR1s.. Maybe corporate is reading the haters of the C8 on the 'Vette forums thinking "You want a front engine you're gonna have to pay for it!"
07-25-2019, 07:27 PM
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If someone wants a C7 they would get that much discount for sure, and even more if buying with the GM Employee Discount. I used that when I bought the C7 I had in the past, along with incentives on top of that; my Uncle retired from GM so that is how I got it.
07-25-2019, 07:42 PM
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07-25-2019, 09:06 PM
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I just ordered a new C7 on 7/16 (last day you could custom order a C7) and my discount for C7 2LT Z51 7M was around 14%
