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The C8 has tremendous potential bang for the buck but anyone who buys this first year design given the complexity of the changes and the history of GM, is either naive or a real gambler. Or maybe just a Corvette loyalist.
One look at this is enough to turn me off the Corvette:
This shows such an utter lack of attention to detail, and that the factory workers just don't give a ****. Applying this protective sticker carefully would be done by those that have pride in their work. I've never seen anything like this! Even a $5 product from China has a nicely applied protective film.
If these guys are so sloppy with something as visible as this sticker, what are they doing in areas we cannot see!?
Again, if you are paying $60K for a new Corvette - that makes sense. But start to option it up and then you are in GT4 or 911 territory and it just becomes stupid.
Are you just trolling or actually serious?
1- Not even a C8 so not sure what your point is
2- how do you know it came from the factory like that and that it hadn't been taken off and stuck back on by somebody at some point?
3- Ugh... really judging a car by the protective sticker on the infotainment?
4- to get technical the infotainment protective sticker would be applied by a tier 2 or 3 provider (in this example more than likely Delco) and supplied to GM... so truly has nothing to do with the actual assembly of the car.
5- I'd bet money that per #2 somebody had peeled that off and reapplied prior to this pic being taken
Did you ever hear of reverse engineering? Do you think that GM may have purchased a few Porsches and taken them apart to determine their magic? It's hard being the pioneer, but much easier for those who follow. You mention handling, balance, and grip. Let's see how the cars perform on the track, and how their times compare.
I so a video where they said Ed Piatek, (Corvette Cheif Engineer) gave a talk at Road America about the car and he mentioned that did benchmark several Ferraris, an R8, and a Lamborghini by taken them apart laying the parts across tables.
1- Not even a C8 so not sure what your point is
2- how do you know it came from the factory like that and that it hadn't been taken off and stuck back on by somebody at some point?
3- Ugh... really judging a car by the protective sticker on the infotainment?
4- to get technical the infotainment protective sticker would be applied by a tier 2 or 3 provider (in this example more than likely Delco) and supplied to GM... so truly has nothing to do with the actual assembly of the car.
5- I'd bet money that per #2 somebody had peeled that off and reapplied prior to this pic being taken
They're grasping for straws and just plain deception and lying. Totally ridiculous.
I so a video where they said Ed Piatek, (Corvette Cheif Engineer) gave a talk at Road America about the car and he mentioned that did benchmark several Ferraris, an R8, and a Lamborghini by taken them apart laying the parts across tables.
I was just speculating. Thanks for verifying. Why reinvent the wheel?
I was at the reveal, and I can say that as good as it looks in pics, it looks way better in person. I can't wait until the magazines get a hold of it and start pitting it against exotics. And the Z06 and ZR1 versions are going to be BONKERS.
Your statement is also objectively FALSE. The 901 (911) debuted in 1963. Which means it’s 56 years old. I’ve already correct that inaccuracy 3 times.
I started to reply when you first posted but now I have to laugh. If you were a true car guy (and many..but not all..on here are) you would have known the 911 timeline. You would also probably know when the first Corvette came out. Now your acting like a 911 expert.
But, where you really lost me was when you quoted the G-wagon as a long production run. Really? Who the helI would have thought of the g-wagon? My first thought was the VW bug and Jeep. Now those were (and are) long runs remaining reasonably close to the original configuration
I had Vettes for 18 years, the last of which was a 750 hp C6 ZR1 and now on my 3rd Porsche (991.1 GT3, GT4 and 991.2 RS) as well as a 458, so I don't get why other groups get so defensive about their particular marque?
What about the interior build quality on the Vettes? Honest question: I've got two Porsche and a Ferrari but never owned a Vette...
So for muscle, sure: seems like good bang for the bucks that new Corvette. But the interior and overal build quality, what is to be expected?
Agree, but the exterior is also have just too much fins and creases, almost like the new NSX that are both too batmobile and Godzilla like. Why the Japanese and Americans can't come up with the likes of Porsche's smooth form, or Ferrari's flair, or the Lambo's wedge shape that are all uniquely their's throughout all generations.
I started to reply when you first posted but now I have to laugh. If you were a true car guy (and many..but not all..on here are) you would have known the 911 timeline. You would also probably know when the first Corvette came out. Now your acting like a 911 expert.
But, where you really lost me was when you quoted the G-wagon as a long production run. Really? Who the helI would have thought of the g-wagon? My first thought was the VW bug and Jeep. Now those were (and are) long runs remaining reasonably close to the original configuration
That said timeline started in ‘63 and not ‘64? Yeah, I knew that. Can’t speak for all though.
Is a self proclaimed “car guy” asking why a G Wagon would come up in a convo about cars that have been nearly identical throughout their span? I hate those things, but they started in 1972 and literally have barely changed for over 45 years. They just finally have been completely re engineered from the ground up and even the new one looks nearly identical to the original. The BEETLE?! Lmao. Really, “car guy?” You mean the thing that moved it’s engine to the front and shares nothing with original?
Originally Posted by ZDan
My statements were absolutely true.
I did not say anything about 901s or 911s or "debuts" or anything like that. We can talk about what the numbers I used represent if you like, but that's another discussion...
However we define its age, is it safe to say that 911s have NOT had people talking for 60 years?
They are in fact false. The 911 (which started as the 901) has been around since 1963, not ‘64 as you mentioned.
So if you want to continue the quibble down semantics lane, and pretend like you don’t understand what rounding means within casual conversation to make a point, that makes it 56 years old. Which rounds up to 60.
Thus it technically would have “people” talking about it for “60 years.” I’m sure it took at least 4 years for Porsche to develop it.
08-07-2019, 04:07 PM
