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Old 07-25-2019, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
I think everyone needs to take a deep breath here and wait until the road tests come out...
I agree, but the 1st road test of the new Spyder just came out and it was pretty bad. Huge ding on the gearing —86 mph in 2nd gear! Also a kick in the junk when it came to the muted sound. Last week I was ready to throw down a deposit on a Spyder if i was to get an allocation, now I kind of hope I don’t get one so my decision will be made for me.

Fortunately I’ve got time to make a decision and will be able to read a few more road tests before I commit hard earned money to one of these vehicles. As things sit right now, I’m at even money on the 2 cars. The saving grace for the P is less depreciation, since I’d probably want to move up to the zo6 or zr1 later on if I were to buy a base model c8.
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Originally Posted by msdunkel
I agree, but the 1st road test of the new Spyder just came out and it was pretty bad. Huge ding on the gearing —86 mph in 2nd gear! Also a kick in the junk when it came to the muted sound. Last week I was ready to throw down a deposit on a Spyder if i was to get an allocation, now I kind of hope I don’t get one so my decision will be made for me.

Fortunately I’ve got time to make a decision and will be able to read a few more road tests before I commit hard earned money to one of these vehicles. As things sit right now, I’m at even money on the 2 cars. The saving grace for the P is less depreciation, since I’d probably want to move up to the zo6 or zr1 later on.
If you have a link to the negative Spyder review please post the link...my wife was thinking about one.
Old 07-25-2019, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
If you have a link to the negative Spyder review please post the link...my wife was thinking about one.
Old 07-25-2019, 11:15 AM
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I test drove a manual Grand Sport earlier this year and really liked the car but the interior was junk IMO. The 911 was far more refined in every way, and the Vette much more raw and visceral but not in a bad way. The 911 is now almost too refined and disconnected in some ways. A little raw and visceral as long as it’s not dangerous and can be reliable might be just the ticket for a weekend sports car. Take away the demographic DMC over marquees and they are both really great sports cars with different strengths and weaknesses. I see it with more emphasis on the same with different approaches than better or worse. I’m really looking forward to the detailed reviews and road tests that should be trickling out soon before I pass judgement.
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Old 07-25-2019, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CaymanCrush
BTW, the Z51 is the only one that'll get you 0-60 in under 3 seconds. (which also remains to be verified by the real world).
$mall clarification: Have to add the Z51 Performance Package to get "0 - 60 in under 3 seconds". => I think that will put it over $75K... or there abouts.
Old 07-25-2019, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CaymanCrush
$mall clarification: Have to add the Z51 Performance Package to get "0 - 60 in under 3 seconds". => I think that will put it over $75K... or there abouts.
On previous Corvettes, the Z51 option was about $5k for the same stuff. I can't see it being too much more than that. If you opt for the 3LT + Z51, it will probably push the price to $75k - $80k.

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Im sure the production line is part of it, but I would guess a lot of the profit will come from the extensive customization options now offered (right out of the Porsche handbook). There are a ton of exterior and interior add-ons available, all with a price of course. I would imagine once people starting adding all of the cool carbon bits and interior color schemes you will hit $15-20k in options. Thats where the margin is.
This is where the profit is.

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Old 07-25-2019, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CaymanCrush
$mall clarification: Have to add the Z51 Performance Package to get "0 - 60 in under 3 seconds". => I think that will put it over $75K... or there abouts.
The z51 performance package is a $5k option on the c7. I don't see it becoming a $15k option on the c8. At most it will be $8-10k but probably more like $6-7k. So you'll end up between $66k-$70k. Still a massive bargain.
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Old 07-25-2019, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CaymanCrush
$mall clarification: Have to add the Z51 Performance Package to get "0 - 60 in under 3 seconds". => I think that will put it over $75K... or there abouts.
Based on the current Z51 package and a equal price increase I’d guess much less if you basically just wanted that package, I’d say around 65-68k. I’ll predict the z51 and 3lt (interior full leather) package will be around 75-80k
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Originally Posted by Caustic
On previous Corvettes, the Z51 option was about $5k for the same stuff. I can't see it being too much more than that. If you opt for the LT3 + Z51, it will probably push the price to $75k - $80k.
From some Chevy Dealer dude on the UTube says these are the prices:

Z51 1LT => $64K
Z51 2LT => $68.5K
Z51 3LT => $74K

Sounds like nobody knows the exact price of the Z51 Performance Package just yet.
Add the price of the Z51 Performance Package and...

Also, do all of them come with the LT2 Engine? (I'm not clear on that).

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Still a massive bargain.
Compared to what again?

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I’ll predict the z51 and 3lt (interior full leather) package will be around 75-80k
I think that'll be pushing $85K.
Old 07-25-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CaymanCrush
Compared to what again?
911
718
Evora 400
R8
NSX

I could keep going but I won't. The 718 sales have already been a problem in the US. This is only going to make it worse. We'll have to wait for official pricing and driving impressions to be released to be sure but the Corvette has always been a bargain buy. The C8 is just going to continue that trend while delivering mid-rear engine dynamics, styling, and a better quality interior.
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Old 07-25-2019, 01:12 PM
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The same insider that quoted $3,700 for high wing also configured his own z51, totaled $87,000

he also said the z51 option is $8,000 minimum and higher up to$12,000 based on trim

when compared to mustangs that is right in line with the PP1 and PP2 packages which exclude all the critical coolers required for extended track running
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What is interesting to me is that there seems to be an epiphany that the Vette is a much better deal than other sports car. This is nothing new. The outgoing Z06 and ZR1 were way cheaper than anything with similar performance from Germany and Italy. So just because it is now a mid engine it matters? Maybe a little! But to me the front engine layout wasn't never the reason to not buy a Vette.

The C8 should perform and handle better than the C7, and it's awesome that Chevy went this direction, Bravo! But I'd still buy a lightly used ~$90k 981 GT4, over a new ~$70k C8 Z51 Vette. And once it gets to the Z06, which will probably be pusing closer to $85k, I don't know that I would buy it over a new 718 GT4, despite it being faster.
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Originally Posted by GoKart Mozart
What is interesting to me is that there seems to be an epiphany that the Vette is a much better deal than other sports car. This is nothing new. The outgoing Z06 and ZR1 were way cheaper than anything with similar performance from Germany and Italy. So just because it is now a mid engine it matters? .
Yes, no epiphany, just surprising that gm can deliver such a high performance mid engine car at that price point. This along with the 911’s increasing base price highlights this gap even more.

I know it’s not the same car but think where ford is pricing their mid engine car, and it won’t perform much better, if at all, than a C8 Z06/ZR1.
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Originally Posted by GoKart Mozart
What is interesting to me is that there seems to be an epiphany that the Vette is a much better deal than other sports car. This is nothing new. The outgoing Z06 and ZR1 were way cheaper than anything with similar performance from Germany and Italy. So just because it is now a mid engine it matters? Maybe a little! But to me the front engine layout wasn't never the reason to not buy a Vette.

The C8 should perform and handle better than the C7, and it's awesome that Chevy went this direction, Bravo! But I'd still buy a lightly used ~$90k 981 GT4, over a new ~$70k C8 Z51 Vette. And once it gets to the Z06, which will probably be pusing closer to $85k, I don't know that I would buy it over a new 718 GT4, despite it being faster.
For me it is the opposite, I am considering the C8 because it is midengine (MR) with good power.

Have driven the C7 equipped with the Z51 package and Magnetic Ride Control suspension at Sonoma Raceway, the car handled well for a FR car, but I didn't like the driving dynamics of the car. Not been able to put the power down early as in a midengine car, having to trail brake to get the car to rotate. I also looked at the C7 Z06 when it came out, and that bulging hood was a non starter for me.

Have been on the list for a PDK GT4/GT4RS for close to 4 years, with the C8 specs been released last week and the pricepoint that it is been offered at I am seriously considering it over the GT4. I suspect that the C8 Z51 version with MRC will be a 1:35-1:36 car at Laguna given that the weight is only about 100lbs more compared to the F458 which had slightly more horsepower but is down relatively in torque, similar MR based active suspension double wishbone F/R vs double wishbone/multi link, similar concept e-diffs, etc.

The car been mass produced vehicle should result in lower cost for consumables like pads/rotors/wheels/tires. I will wait for the Corvette Tour (if it happens) or just go to Spring Mountain in NV and beat up on a C8 for a day or two to see if I enjoy the car at the track.

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Old 07-25-2019, 02:37 PM
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I'll probably rent one on a business trip once they show up at some of the Hertz locations and it will either remind me of why I'm not interested in any of the prior generations or it will surprise me with what they've accomplished.


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