911Syncro

Tiptronic is better than the manual.

pulpo

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-65/

This car will tell us the state of the market. This is a COMPLETE BaT ad. Take notes.

Even Arctic Silver over Black, this car could have been a record setter a few months ago. Easily $65k....

Gonna find out how much it's really worth in 3 days.

EVOMMM

At $26k already and 4 days to go I think it will go well

peterp

You, sir, deserve both a permaban AND a forced user name change for that comment!

GC996

The M96 market is alive and well. Keep an eye on the expensive stuff. My bet would be that it weakens considerably as the bear market continues and the economy slows. But the more affordable 996 and 997 market will keep catching a bid.

bdronsick

That’s a solid widebody there, should be $50K min, and will probably do considerably more

Three years ago that was a $25K car so no whiners

Billup

Pretty clean low mile Orient Red: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-4-38/

frederik

A good C4S was $30-35k three years ago. A C2 20-25k.

bdronsick

Good catch I mean four years ago: https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...e-collectible/

Time is flying even faster than prices are drifting!

Optionman1

Looking at these 2 recent sales I'm not sure what this 4s will bring:

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...-carrera-4s-6/
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2004-porsche-c4s/

flat6fan18

I've always wanted a 996 C4S, so Im curious what that BAT listing will bring today...

Optionman1

I thought I would cut/paste the best section of that 2017 R&T article:

"I recently read an article that said something like this: Eventually, the supply of 996es will contract as the bad ones are put in junkyards and the good ones are restored. At that point, everybody will fix the IMS problems and the prices will start rising, helped by the fact that galvanized Porsches don’t rust and most of them will have relatively low miles. Buying a 1999 911 in 2017 is just like buying a 1983 911SC in 2001. You’re at the bottom of the market.Sorry, but it ain’t necessarily so. To paraphrase a great Vice-Presidential candidate, I know the 1983 911SC. I’ve driven the 911SC. And you, Fried-Egg-Mobile, are no 911SC. To begin with, the air-cooled cars have character that no modern car has. They are relatively simple to repair. Most importantly, they are rare.

The 996 is not rare. It will never be rare. Bad examples will haunt the buy-here-pay-here lots from now until the end of time. The cost of maintenance and repair will always exceed any resulting increase in value, because you will always be competing in a resale market flush with maintenance-deferred fright-pigs with noisy wheel bearings and metal shavings in the oil pans.

The Loofa-Cult vintage-Porsche movement is nostalgia-driven, but nobody will be nostalgic about the 996-generation 911. It was an unloved interregnum between two round-headlight superstars. At best, you’ll have same kind of kitschy appeal that you’d have with a 1977 Monte Carlo—but you can get parts for a 1977 Monte Carlo for pennies on the dollar at a junkyard."

frederik

bmchan

I'm aware of a 2004 4S Cab (white) with 22K miles just went for near the $60K asking price. Was on an auction site but sold privately. Excellent service records.

brontosaurus

Liking a 964 over a 996, that I can understand. The 993 I simply just don't get.

TBH I've never been in a 993 either, so this is all just from a numbers/aesthetics standpoint. Maybe someone else can explain it.