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Old 02-17-2022, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by work_truck
one time I let a cop pull me over when I was doing 160 in a school zone

he pulled me out of the car and let me **** his wife, then he handed me 200$ and sent me on my way because my car was so cool
🤣🤣🤣 I assume you had a speed yellow 996? Because if it was silver you’re definitely getting arrested
Old 02-17-2022, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GC996
So if the battery is "empty" and you want 260 miles, it will take you 5 hours to charge? If so, is this assuming you charge it at home versus a charging station that will be faster?
Here's how it works. When you plug in at the end of driving that day you still have 150 - 200 miles of range, a few hours later you're at full charge 90%. Certainly, every morning if's fully charged. On the odd day when you drove a lot and car is down to 5%, and you need it fully charged in an hour you go to a Tesla supercharger, they're everywhere, and in 20 mins you can add a lot of charge, in one hour or less you're fully charged. Some people use them exclusively, I think they're nuts. Some people supercharge twice or three times per week while they shop or eat dinner.

Our last Tesla we kept for three years, only twice did we have to go to a supercharger near our house. My new Model S will charge at twice the speed of my 2018 Model X and it has 400 miles in the 'tank'.
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Old 02-17-2022, 10:50 AM
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Some prices might be....sinking? https://www.thedrive.com/news/44330/...n-the-atlantic

Big yikes!
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Old 02-17-2022, 11:02 AM
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Thanks for explanation.

It really sounds like the key to moving an EV from just a local driver that you can charge overnight at your home, to more of a distance driver is that we still need to get the battery technology to the point that it can hold a "larger" charge, as well as faster charging speed for a guy or gal that only has the time that it would take to fill a gas tank, get a cup of coffee and hit the John.

As an example a couple of years ago my wife and I went with friends in their Tesla S from Chicago to S bend for a Notre Dame game. We had to charge up once we got to S Bend before the game for about 30-40 minutes so we are could drive home once the game was over. So we left Chicago 45 minutes early to account for the charging. I suspect in 3 years the charging technology has improved.

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Old 02-17-2022, 12:23 PM
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I don't think I could ever be comfortable with a large Li-I battery charging with high current in my garage overnight. I have seen some really bad outcomes from such a configuration.
Old 02-17-2022, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lady Silver
I don't think I could ever be comfortable with a large Li-I battery charging with high current in my garage overnight. I have seen some really bad outcomes from such a configuration.
Our neighbors house went up in flames 10 or so years ago because her Jeep Grand Cherokee didn't "shut off." She went to check the garage for something and it was already engulfed in flames. I know batteries are a pain to put out and can burn for days buts not just EVs.
Old 02-17-2022, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lady Silver
I don't think I could ever be comfortable with a large Li-I battery charging with high current in my garage overnight. I have seen some really bad outcomes from such a configuration.
Then you shouldn't get one, but don't forget what the C stands for in ICE."An acceptable level of fires, of course, is zero, but they do happen. Data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the National Fire Prevention Association indicate there are about 200,000 car fires in the U.S. a year, which is about 0.08% of the 276 million cars, motorcycles, heavy-duty trucks, and buses on U.S. roads.

The Tesla figure, at 0.01%, covers many years. Very roughly speaking, it appears that Tesla vehicles may be less likely to catch fire than any other car, and are certainly no more likely to do so."
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Old 02-17-2022, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Putt-Putt
Then you shouldn't get one, but don't forget what the C stands for in ICE."An acceptable level of fires, of course, is zero, but they do happen. Data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the National Fire Prevention Association indicate there are about 200,000 car fires in the U.S. a year, which is about 0.08% of the 276 million cars, motorcycles, heavy-duty trucks, and buses on U.S. roads.

The Tesla figure, at 0.01%, covers many years. Very roughly speaking, it appears that Tesla vehicles may be less likely to catch fire than any other car, and are certainly no more likely to do so."
I would assume that ICE fires are mostly "user error" including failing to address oil leaks, etc whereas EV fires, which would be harder to extinguish, are caused by non "user error" aka defective battery.
Old 02-17-2022, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
I would assume that ICE fires are mostly "user error" including failing to address oil leaks, etc whereas EV fires, which would be harder to extinguish, are caused by non "user error" aka defective battery.
The Ferrari gas lines come to mind when I think about this.
Old 02-17-2022, 01:33 PM
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Boca & TPB are quieter, but Delray is a lot of fun

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Luv me some Delray Beach!!
Old 02-17-2022, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Putt-Putt
Then you shouldn't get one, but don't forget what the C stands for in ICE."An acceptable level of fires, of course, is zero, but they do happen. Data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the National Fire Prevention Association indicate there are about 200,000 car fires in the U.S. a year, which is about 0.08% of the 276 million cars, motorcycles, heavy-duty trucks, and buses on U.S. roads.

The Tesla figure, at 0.01%, covers many years. Very roughly speaking, it appears that Tesla vehicles may be less likely to catch fire than any other car, and are certainly no more likely to do so."
I didn't call out Tesla specifically. I didn't realize they were the only maker using Lithium based batteries. Admittedly I don't spend any time watching the EV/ICE controversy. Although you are correct in that I will not be buying any EV car, ever. I am comfortable that ICE Porsches, along with plenty of high octane fuel for them, will be available though my remaining lifetime and beyond.
Old 02-17-2022, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by plpete84
Some prices might be....sinking? https://www.thedrive.com/news/44330/...n-the-atlantic

Big yikes!
Add another 5% to late model used porsches.

On a separate note, how about starting an EV thread so u guys can carry on?
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Old 02-17-2022, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
I would assume that ICE fires are mostly "user error" including failing to address oil leaks, etc whereas EV fires, which would be harder to extinguish, are caused by non "user error" aka defective battery.
It can be defective battery but the ones I have seen were due primarily to faults in the charge controller and inadequacy of built in fault detection in the controller. I believe the recent Boeing 787 was traced to manufacturing defects in the Li-I battery on the aircraft, and inadequacy of the charge controller to detect and react to the result of the defects.
Old 02-17-2022, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lady Silver
I didn't call out Tesla specifically. I didn't realize they were the only maker using Lithium based batteries. Admittedly I don't spend any time watching the EV/ICE controversy. Although you are correct in that I will not be buying any EV car, ever. I am comfortable that ICE Porsches, along with plenty of high octane fuel for them, will be available though my remaining lifetime and beyond.
Don't blame you. If it wasn't for the full self driving features I wouldn't be a Tesla owner. It intrigued me. I once drove from Flagstaff to Scottdale AZ all highway on auto-pilot with zero interventions, it even did the highway interchange on its own. I arrived incredibly relaxed 2.5 hours later. The battery thing is nice for instant torque and plugging holes in traffic but I much prefer my 996 for driving fun. Let's hope they don't mandate EV's, ever.
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Old 02-17-2022, 04:11 PM
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Over near the thread topic, there's https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...11-carrera-92/ $52k plus fees on an extremely clean, 24k mile 996 with no ambers, no 408s, 4 stalks, and (yes, I'm going there) cupholders.
The executor of my estate will be pleased, no?
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