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Old Mar 18, 2024 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam&Ellas992
My apology don't want to step on anyones toes but, i don't want anything to do with the name Hybrid on a 911. I don't care what motor it is. I don't want to see that hybrid gauge going up and down while driving it, especially on a 911.
I just don't want the name Hybrid period.
I dropped on my for my wife to allow me to get another 992. Sold my manual chalk 992 4S to get a 4GTS Manual which is scheduled to arrive soon, this will be my last 911. Actually she's getting it for my 50th birthday
- NA Turbo
- AWD
- Manual
- 4 Seater
Check, check, check & check.
There isn't a better feeling in the world (First of all we Talking about cars lol) then clicking Build my 911 and you see all the 911's and then you choose: Coupe, Manual, AWD and only two 911's pop up, the 4S and 4GTS for me that is very cool.

Wish you all the best!
You're hung up on a name, not substance. And what the hell is NA turbo? And you already sold your soul for 'your last 911' yet want to come here to complain about the next one?

Please just go back to the configurator.
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Old Mar 18, 2024 | 11:02 PM
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Old Mar 19, 2024 | 04:55 AM
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Old Mar 19, 2024 | 07:20 AM
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NA Turbo. Gotta love it. But hey, there's a Taycan Turbo so anything goes. Next they will have a RWD 4, a manual PDK, and a 7 gauge cluster where you can only see 3 of them. And a 911 has 4 "seats"? Really? I wouldn't call those silly things in the back seats. All I know is the more I read about new cars, the less I want one.

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Old Mar 19, 2024 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeahbladejeah
You're hung up on a name, not substance. And what the hell is NA turbo? And you already sold your soul for 'your last 911' yet want to come here to complain about the next one?

Please just go back to the configurator.
NA Turbo LOL I even laughed out loud on this one I meant turbo motor.
Getting old I guess I was thinking about NA for the 992.2

Don't talk to me about Soul my friend, im just gonna end it here.





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Old Mar 20, 2024 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Qz5gxt
I regret selling my 991.1 GTS NA as it was an amazing driver and the NA sound was amazing. My next fun car purchase plan was to get a 991.2 GT3 but I was starting to re think about getting a 992.1 GTS instead until I started learning about the new 992.2 GTS will be coming out as NA/mild hybrid. Now I worry if I buy a used 992.1 GTS turbo the value will drop when the 992.2 GTS NA comes out and I will miss the NA sound? May have to rethink my next Porsche purchase plans now?

991.2 GT3 or 992.1 GTS or wait in line for a 992.2 GTS NA

Goal of my next 911 purchase is a for fun Porsche club events car (My track days are done now however), Saturday cars and coffee and not a daily driver. But will take wife out to dinner now and then. My next Porsche most likely will be my last toy car purchase so really want to get it right and keep 5-10 years
I was in a similar boat, but I think the latest is no NA hybrid for the 992.2 GTS,

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...e-911-preview/
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Old Mar 20, 2024 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by baege
I was in a similar boat, but I think the latest is no NA hybrid for the 992.2 GTS,

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...e-911-preview/
Hybrid means AWD. I dont think purists that like RWD GTS will like it.
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Old Mar 20, 2024 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 3-Pedals
Hybrid means AWD. I dont think purists that like RWD GTS will like it.
*gestures broadly to the rest of the market*

Hybrid Hyundai, Toyota, Honda etc are FWD.

992.2 front wheel drive confirmed.

My sources double confirmed it.
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Old Mar 20, 2024 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Swift
And a 911 has 4 "seats"? Really? I wouldn't call those silly things in the back seats.
My kids would beg to differ. A true two-seater is impossible for me. 911 2+2 is perfect.
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Old Mar 20, 2024 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Haros
*gestures broadly to the rest of the market*

Hybrid Hyundai, Toyota, Honda etc are FWD.

992.2 front wheel drive confirmed.

My sources double confirmed it.
huh? you think the 992.2 is going to be FWD?
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Old Mar 20, 2024 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 3-Pedals
Given the noise you referring to was a side effect of weight loss, I think the noise will get only worse because Porsche will do their thing of reducing more weight to counter the hybrid gain and that means less sound deadening.
I'm not sure that will be true. The 991.2 is quite a bit noisier than the 992.1 . In the newer car, Porsche adjusted the tone of PSE to eliminate the drone at steady cruise and the car itself is quieter on the inside. Is it Lexus quiet? Of course not, but it is better than the previous model. Hopefully as this car becomes less of a sports car (in some trims) Porsche will make it a better daily driver. There are plenty of models to cater to the purist sports car purchaser. The Carerra T, GTS, GT3 are all examples.
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Old Mar 20, 2024 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BED997
for noise, have you tried different tire pressures, tire brands or adding some insulation on the rear fender liners or doors? trading in a 911 for another for noise seems a awfully big expense. 911s have never been quiet. I drove a new 911 with Pirelli tires and couldn’t believe how much louder it was over Michelin on the same roads.

I get that some people are more sensitive to certain noise or frequencies than others at different speeds. maybe a tire change would work.
My last 911 was a 2017 991.2 . I got rid of it, in part because I couldn't hear myself think on the highway - most of the noise was coming from the tires. I didn't try changing tires and I wouldn't start pulling the interior of the car apart to install sound deading materials. If there was a specialty shop in town that could do that for me for $5,000 I'd have jumped on it. Aside from the tire roar and the PSE drone (corrected in the 992.1) the car was amazing. Maybe I should just do what some others have done while highway driving; don a pair of Apple air pods and set them to transparency which lets some noise in and blocks some. That way you can carry on a conversation, make a phone call, all without feeling isolated with earplugs in your ears. Believe it or not, subjecting your ears to 85db for 6 hours at a time damages your hearing.
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Old Mar 21, 2024 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by kayjh
My last 911 was a 2017 991.2 . I got rid of it, in part because I couldn't hear myself think on the highway - most of the noise was coming from the tires. I didn't try changing tires and I wouldn't start pulling the interior of the car apart to install sound deading materials. If there was a specialty shop in town that could do that for me for $5,000 I'd have jumped on it. Aside from the tire roar and the PSE drone (corrected in the 992.1) the car was amazing. Maybe I should just do what some others have done while highway driving; don a pair of Apple air pods and set them to transparency which lets some noise in and blocks some. That way you can carry on a conversation, make a phone call, all without feeling isolated with earplugs in your ears. Believe it or not, subjecting your ears to 85db for 6 hours at a time damages your hearing.
I saw an Aston Martin the other day, it looked really nice.
Aston Martins used to be ugly and costed not that much higher than 911 I thought...
Well, they evolved a lot, DB12 coupe is priced slightly higher than a 911 Turbo S, the name sounds like it's got V12 , interior is quite futuristic, so if your budget is in the range...

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Old Mar 21, 2024 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kayjh
In the newer car, Porsche adjusted the tone of PSE to eliminate the drone at steady cruise and the car itself is quieter on the inside. Is it Lexus quiet? Of course not, but it is better than the previous model.
The 992 exhaust valves on both the PSE and non-PSE cars close to varying levels between 1k-4k RPM to reduce drone but that's also why they are quieter than a lot of people expect. I installed an M-tune to keep the valves open all the time and the drone is only slightly bothersome at times in Sport, not Normal or Sports Plus.

Rear tires are the source of most noise on a 911 and that directly correlates to the road surface quality itself for the most part IME.
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Old Mar 21, 2024 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nein Eleven
The 992 exhaust valves on both the PSE and non-PSE cars close to varying levels between 1k-4k RPM to reduce drone but that's also why they are quieter than a lot of people expect. I installed an M-tune to keep the valves open all the time and the drone is only slightly bothersome at times in Sport, not Normal or Sports Plus.

Rear tires are the source of most noise on a 911 and that directly correlates to the road surface quality itself for the most part IME.
My understanding was that the closed valves at low RPM was to meet the strict noise requirements in the EU that are getting tighter every year
They test at low RPM is "normal traffic" driving and the valves are closed
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