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Old 12-21-2023, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RudyP
Can anyone summarize what (if any models) will have a manual? Don't want hybrid, turbo or tech in general. PDK is a non-starter. Don't care about power but do want to buy the absolute latest manual production carerra with a manual for future proofing reasons (and next gen GT3 assuming they stick to the forumula). If an NA manual 992.2 Carrera of some sort is available, I'll happily buy one at whatever price. If I'm forced into another turbo manual, I'll live with it.. If none are available, I'm done with newer Carreras and hope there is a 992.2 GT3 w/ manual or even 994 GT3 w/manual I can still buy (additions at this point, I'm not selling anything I already own)
It sounds like none of the 992.2 models will offer a manual. That’s so disappointing for the future. Find an allocation for a 2024 before they’re all gone. Probably need to move quickly since the article mentions the new model coming in 6 months.
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Old 12-21-2023, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by R N M
You do realize that 991.1 GTS which also had NA motor made 430hp - that was 10yrs ago. It’s not unreasonable that new motor with mild-hybrid system would make 483hp. I agree the torque # is significant for NA but maybe that is where the mild-hybrid comes in.
But that is with the 3.8L motor which was 395hp in the S and 430hp in the GTS. The base 991.1 engine was 3.4L @ 350hp. I think you are correct that a 3.6L NA engine will need some form of mild hybrid to boost it to 483hp.
Old 12-21-2023, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by txpackers
It sounds like none of the 992.2 models will offer a manual. That’s so disappointing for the future. Find an allocation for a 2024 before they’re all gone. Probably need to move quickly since the article mentions the new model coming in 6 months.
Three 992.1 colors are going NLA in March and April 2024 so it is difficult to imagine it is going to be approximately six months until the arrival of the dot two. For those that are unaware, Shark Blue and Racing Yellow are NLA after 03/15/24. Ruby Star Neo follows in April.
Old 12-21-2023, 09:19 AM
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I'm happy that I've gotten a 992.1 based on what i'm seing in the future.
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Old 12-21-2023, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by R N M
You do realize that 991.1 GTS which also had NA motor made 430hp - that was 10yrs ago. It’s not unreasonable that new motor with mild-hybrid system would make 483hp. I agree the torque # is significant for NA but maybe that is where the mild-hybrid comes in.
Yeah with a 3.8l engine. The point is that a 48v hybrid system can not provide 50+ horsepower and 80+ ft lb of torque. The engine would either need to be turbocharged or there would have to be a higher voltage hybrid.
Old 12-21-2023, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by breny4104
No MT on the hybrids!
It says no manuals on the t-her models which looks to be similar to the e ray where the electric system drives the front wheels. I would think the mild hybrid vehicles will still have a manual transmission.
Old 12-21-2023, 10:21 AM
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These figures seems too specific to have no basis at this point. I'm sure there are some inaccuracies in that article, but pinning specific numbers to it makes is seem like at least some of this stuff is already decided/done.

I was hoping my GT3 allocation would have bee a 992.2, but now I think I'm very happy that I'm getting a 992.1 build, esp if manual may be comprised (but that does seem far fetched to limit the gt3 to pdk).
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Old 12-21-2023, 10:23 AM
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Very interesting, happy with my 992.1 C2 GTS Manual. We'll let them figure out the kinks and reevaluate with the next generation.
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Old 12-21-2023, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by malba2366
It says no manuals on the t-her models which looks to be similar to the e ray where the electric system drives the front wheels. I would think the mild hybrid vehicles will still have a manual transmission.
The info isn't clear, but seems to imply that there will be no manual on anything except maybe GTS and GT3. If they offer a non T-HEV variant then maybe, but it is not clear if all Carreras will be T-HEV or not.
Old 12-21-2023, 11:57 AM
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I don't think anyone needs to worry about a manual not being available for the next 5 years.
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
I don't think anyone needs to worry about a manual not being available for the next 5 years.
Very true… but the likelihood of it being offered on less 992.2 models than the 992.1 appears to be a high probability.
Old 12-21-2023, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Newusername
I'm happy that I've gotten a 992.1 based on what i'm seing in the future.

Apparently so.
I am on a home dealer list for .2 C4S which will have exactly 4HP more than a 991.2 C4GTS ? .
I am sure some of this has to do with emission regs but it makes the current 992 gen all that much more attractive.
Old 12-21-2023, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MFC993
Apparently so.
I am on a home dealer list for .2 C4S which will have exactly 4HP more than a 991.2 C4GTS ? .
I am sure some of this has to do with emission regs but it makes the current 992 gen all that much more attractive.
Current 992 with manual or generally all 992.1 incl. PDKs?
Curious to understand why you think so

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Old 12-21-2023, 12:13 PM
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What a mess of an article. Not even worth the time trying to digest it.
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:33 PM
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From a very selfish perspective, I hope the 992.2 is not offered in a manual for 2 reasons:
1. Don't want to be tempted to buy and/or feel bad my 2023 manual S is outdated
2. Makes my 992.1 manual S more special and valuable.


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