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Old May 16, 2024 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by zachr
@silversurfer6 have you been able to confirm if this is a single or twin turbo setup in the GTS? If single, ~55lbs for the turbo itself seems like a neutral change, considering the twins are probably 25-30lbs each already... Obviously the ICE is physically larger, and a smallish battery and new HV circuits would add 75-125lbs depending on size and layout.

Same question for the S, which I assume is retaining at least the block from the current 9A2 evo? And do you know if it's the same borg-warner unit (so the S & GTS would then keep using the same turbocharger as today, but on 3.0 and 3.6L ICEs respectively?
No news other the torque figure of the GTS. My guess is that GTS is with one eturbo and the higher end Turbo s will get 2.

The information on the S is even less but surely the etrurbo manufacturer the same. S should get the 3.0L as the base. 510bhp on the S possibly means a 400V eturbo but the voltage is still an educated guess.

The real question is how the eturbo implementation will be done i.e the hope is to see only 400V on both cars But this has not been confirmed yet or I have not seen this info.

I think we will not see any info on the S on the 28th since will be launched later.
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Old May 16, 2024 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by zachr
@silversurfer6 have you been able to confirm if this is a single or twin turbo setup in the GTS? If single, ~55lbs for the turbo itself seems like a neutral change, considering the twins are probably 25-30lbs each already... Obviously the ICE is physically larger, and a smallish battery and new HV circuits would add 75-125lbs depending on size and layout.
Your weight calculations are similar to mine but I think even if the extra weight approaches 100kg still the extra bhp and torque will improve the performance figures.

Of course how the car willl handle and how the weight affects the feeling of the car will be judged only when driven.

Surely we are getting into a new era with the hybridization and the eturbos and the technology is actually state of the art and cutting edge in my opinion.

Additionally it has been tested well in the last years with the millions of test miles but also even better under racing conditions.

I am not pro or against to this change since it is what it is and Porsche has to do it. Purists here have to understand that there is a chance that this tech will improve the response of the turbo models and they might behave more similar to a NA engine i.e no turbo lag.

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Old May 16, 2024 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
This event probably means tomorrow we will have more info.
Doubt it... professional journos on the Porsche invite list take the embargo seriously, otherwise they're not included in the next event.

I enjoy the speculation like most enthusiasts, but I guess for now we have a hazy, but good enough, view of things, and all will be clear in 12 days.
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Old May 16, 2024 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MacAna
Doubt it... professional journos on the Porsche invite list take the embargo seriously, otherwise they're not included in the next event.

I enjoy the speculation like most enthusiasts, but I guess for now we have a hazy, but good enough, view of things, and all will be clear in 12 days.
I dont disagree but let’s hope for more info, especially about the S. Base and GTS we will know in 10 days anyway.
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Old May 16, 2024 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SBAD
God knows what they did to the interior. We already know the analog tach is gone.
I posted earlier, I think they will add a trim piece to the bottom and sides of the instrument cluster. As a consequence, the slim edges of the current digital screens flanking the analog tach, which look quite futuristic from the passenger’s view, will be hidden.

Unfortunately, this will break up the sweeping horizontal flow of the dashboard.

I believe this trim piece is required because the digital display, being repurposed from the Tycan for the 992.2, is a different size and shape than the current setup, so they need to add a plastic transition there to get it to fit up against the PCM screen.




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Old May 16, 2024 | 07:04 PM
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The eTurbo tech is really appealing, and I'm beginning to think the heck with the manual if Porsche choses to ditch it.

After all, over 500bhp with a huge torque & razor sharp response is too much to handle with a stick shift anyway.

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Old May 16, 2024 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by black_frog
The eTurbo tech is really appealing, and I'm beginning to think the heck with the manual if Porsche choses to ditch it.

After all, over 500bhp with a huge torque & razor sharp response is too much to handle with a stick shift anyway.
eTurbo is a stupid concept because a fully electric car easily wins any performance comparison. A manual shift car with a regular engine wins in the heart and soul department which is more important than track times to most people.
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Old May 16, 2024 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche992
eTurbo is a stupid concept because a fully electric car easily wins any performance comparison. A manual shift car with a regular engine wins in the heart and soul department which is more important than track times to most people.
How is something that makes ICE engines more powerful and more efficient a stupid concept worse than an electric car?
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Old May 16, 2024 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by alaris
How is something that makes ICE engines more powerful and more efficient a stupid concept worse than an electric car?
It's just a bridge to the end goal and that is a fully electric 911. The Tesla roadster will make any hybrid look like a toy when it hits the market. Porsche and everyone knows this.. the only thing Porsche is doing with these hybrids is make the transition feel a little better for everyone but it's a waste of time. In the future it will look dumb. I would have kept the 911 fully ICE / Manual / Old school and when ready just go fully electric.
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Old May 16, 2024 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche992
eTurbo is a stupid concept because a fully electric car easily wins any performance comparison. A manual shift car with a regular engine wins in the heart and soul department which is more important than track times to most people.
Do you mean straight line performance when you say “any performance comparison”?
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Old May 16, 2024 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstPorscheGT3
Do you mean straight line performance when you say “any performance comparison”?
A fully electric 911 will easily beat a ICE hybrid in any track , they are just wasting peoples time before the 994 comes
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Old May 16, 2024 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche992
It's just a bridge to the end goal and that is a fully electric 911. The Tesla roadster will make any hybrid look like a toy when it hits the market. Porsche and everyone knows this.. the only thing Porsche is doing with these hybrids is make the transition feel a little better for everyone but it's a waste of time. In the future it will look dumb. I would have kept the 911 fully ICE / Manual / Old school and when ready just go fully electric.
Tesla Roadster LMAO. Porsche actually builds cars, they don’t just pump stock.
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Old May 16, 2024 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDude
Tesla Roadster LMAO. Porsche actually builds cars, they don’t just pump stock.
The Model Y is the best selling car in the world FYI
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Old May 16, 2024 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche992
The Model Y is the best selling car in the world FYI
What’s that got to do with your 2017 launch roadster?
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Old May 16, 2024 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche992
A fully electric 911 will easily beat a ICE hybrid in any track , they are just wasting peoples time before the 994 comes
Allegedly there will not be any full EV during the 994. It will come the following generation, the 998.
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