Low take rate? Manuals contribute to 40% of all sales across 911 and 718’s for trims where a manual is offered. As one of the few manufacturers still offering a manual, I believe porsche is incentivized to keep offering it. If they continue it for 992.2, like others have said, we won’t complain so much about hybridization (especially if they go back to naturally aspirated). Here is to hope!

 

Under 50% for two niche cars is not a lot and it looks like 718 manuals will disappear in short order. And the take rate of all other new sports cars (minus the vaporware Lotus Emira) is 0%.

Porsche has very little incentive to keep offering manuals because none of the competition offer them and they know they have a captured audience of enthusiasts who aren’t going anywhere.

I see no reason why they would get rid of it on the non-hybrids though. But time will tell.

 

Here's an update from Car & Driver for the 2025 911.
2025 Porsche 911: What We Know So Far (caranddriver.com)

 

Thank you for sharing. This article does not comment at all on transmission. Speculates that even Base and S will have 48V mild hybrid. Hopefully will find out soon.

 

That's only true in the U.S.

In the ROW, it's closer to 20-25%.

 

Since this thread is all pure speculation, I'll share my worthless input and say this fits with what my SA told me, namely, his current understanding is all 992.2 Carrera variants will be hybrid, with no manual transmission.

It's like reading tea leaves or chicken bones with this topic...

 

Did your SA hear this from PCNA? This may be true. A former colleague of mine works for BMW corporate and he mentioned this generation of ///M cars are the last with a manual option. Although, the US market still wants them, the ROW including Europe and China do not so the thought is to no longer appease just the US market. I'm sure the 992.2 GT cars will still have a manual option.... like natural aspiration, you'll have to pay big bucks to get something "old school."

 

Porsche is smart at milking the occasion

i can see no mt option on regular trims so that will create panic for people

Then introduce special models with mt with some additional tweaks at a much higher price
dealers will be happy
adm game will continue for all these special models

 

No I don't think the MHEVs (low voltage mild hybrids) will be counted in HEV (hybrid electric vehicle) category. Going forward basically every higher end car will be mild hybrid with some sort of low voltage (usually 48V) system to assist with starting and provide a small amount of power. It is the new default. It makes sense because city fuel consumption can be reduced by 10% to 15% with little effort and a minor weight penalty. BMW's entire X5 SUV line-up now has a mild hybrid system (excluding the X5 50e which is a PHEV).

I expect the new 992.2 Carrera S and possibly base Carrera as well to be announced this summer (as stated at the recent investor conference) with a just 48V MHEV system. Again, most people will not even know the mild hybrid system is there unless they knew it was there. Following the pattern of previous launches, I would then expect the 992.2 GTS, Turbo models, and GT3 to be announced within ~1.5 years after that (so before 2026), including the "sporty" full hybrid electric 911(s). However, given the slow roll-out of the 992.2 overall, I would not be surprised though if dates get pushed back.

I would hope that a manual transmission would still be available on the Carrera S. I think I remember some early early rumors on this forum that showed Porsche was testing a manual 992.2. North America (mostly the United States) is the second largest market for Porsche now (behind all of Europe) and we like our manuals.

 

No, at the conference link above Porsche themselves discussed the new 911. Base and S 992.2 will be ICE only and will be available to order this summer. GTS, Turbo and Turbo S will be hybrid and available later in the year, this was noted as a delay from the previous messaging by one of the callers.

I don’t know why car and driver is posting article updates that still don’t make this clear. This is exactly what Porsche said. I would expect the 992.2 Base and S to have a very similar powertrain to the 992.1, if not exactly the same. I’d bet the T will come back as well but not right away.

 

I suspect that Porsche is bringing mild hybrid to comply with reg’s rather than to improve marketability.

As such, the smaller the better. I just had a Fiat Panda in Italy with mild hybrid and manual. It’s tiny and works surprisingly well.

Given that MT is smaller and lighter than PDK it can certainly be packaged with mild Hybrid.

 

Not sure it's been posted yet: https://www.topspeed.com/porsche-911...hat-to-expect/

I entirely expect the 3.0L engines to continue to offer manuals, but the front wheel driven hybrids will not be compatible.

 

In reading the article, I became a bit confused by the "2.0-liter kWh lithium-ion battery pack." I didn't know they were rating these battery packs based on their physical volume. LOL

 

Makes sense for who? Additional weight, cost, complexity and all to save 3-4 mpg? I have a 992 C4S and get around 22 mpg, that's just fine with me.

 

The environmental regulators, the ones trying to regulate all ICE cars out of existence. And it won't even be 2-3 MPG, as most people are going to turn off the auto start/stop anyway - even though it should be very seamless with the 48V mild hybrid.