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Burning Brakes
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See I can do the whole “look up my last post” too.
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Looks like the facelift team got their inspiration from the Batmobile. The new visual elements are incongruous with the all the 992.1 elements that they did not change. I don't like *any* of the aesthetic changes.
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The problem is that the front bumper in the picture IS the new Sport Design version.
If you imagine away the louvres/flaps, the bumper doesn't actually look too different from the current SD bumper. The big openings on both sides are somewhat the same shape, only real difference being that the new SD version as a whole is more angular (whereas the old one is more round according to the entire classic design language of the 911) and instead of the diagonal beam or bar like design elements on both sides of the center of the bumper, which in the old one are in the color of the exterior paint, you have now black plastic with some questionable design and additional holes/air channels in those elements.
Too lazy to post any pictures but one should be able to see this quite clearly from the pics of the old and new SD bumper next to each other. Beats me why Porsche now has decided to put the louvres/flaps also in the SD bumper. (Perhaps Porsche is still pulling our leg in these pre-launch pics...or then not.) In any case, I believe the horizontal flaps in the other new, indeed regular bumper design are functional in the similar fashion as to the current ones.
And btw, fully agree to the comments above stating that the new headlight design seems a bit blaah.. It used to be that 911 always had the most beautiful headlights, especially in the most upgraded form (PDLS+/Matrix etc...) and regardless of the model series. Now it seems like they're trying to force the same rough headline design into all of their models (Taycan, Panamera, Macan, Cayenne, 718) with no real differentiation.. It's such a pity!
If you imagine away the louvres/flaps, the bumper doesn't actually look too different from the current SD bumper. The big openings on both sides are somewhat the same shape, only real difference being that the new SD version as a whole is more angular (whereas the old one is more round according to the entire classic design language of the 911) and instead of the diagonal beam or bar like design elements on both sides of the center of the bumper, which in the old one are in the color of the exterior paint, you have now black plastic with some questionable design and additional holes/air channels in those elements.
Too lazy to post any pictures but one should be able to see this quite clearly from the pics of the old and new SD bumper next to each other. Beats me why Porsche now has decided to put the louvres/flaps also in the SD bumper. (Perhaps Porsche is still pulling our leg in these pre-launch pics...or then not.) In any case, I believe the horizontal flaps in the other new, indeed regular bumper design are functional in the similar fashion as to the current ones.
And btw, fully agree to the comments above stating that the new headlight design seems a bit blaah.. It used to be that 911 always had the most beautiful headlights, especially in the most upgraded form (PDLS+/Matrix etc...) and regardless of the model series. Now it seems like they're trying to force the same rough headline design into all of their models (Taycan, Panamera, Macan, Cayenne, 718) with no real differentiation.. It's such a pity!
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Given the noise you referring to was a side effect of weight loss, I think the noise will get only worse because Porsche will do their thing of reducing more weight to counter the hybrid gain and that means less sound deadening.
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I regret selling my 991.1 GTS NA as it was an amazing driver and the NA sound was amazing. My next fun car purchase plan was to get a 991.2 GT3 but I was starting to re think about getting a 992.1 GTS instead until I started learning about the new 992.2 GTS will be coming out as NA/mild hybrid. Now I worry if I buy a used 992.1 GTS turbo the value will drop when the 992.2 GTS NA comes out and I will miss the NA sound? May have to rethink my next Porsche purchase plans now?
991.2 GT3 or 992.1 GTS or wait in line for a 992.2 GTS NA
Goal of my next 911 purchase is a for fun Porsche club events car (My track days are done now however), Saturday cars and coffee and not a daily driver. But will take wife out to dinner now and then. My next Porsche most likely will be my last toy car purchase so really want to get it right and keep 5-10 years
991.2 GT3 or 992.1 GTS or wait in line for a 992.2 GTS NA
Goal of my next 911 purchase is a for fun Porsche club events car (My track days are done now however), Saturday cars and coffee and not a daily driver. But will take wife out to dinner now and then. My next Porsche most likely will be my last toy car purchase so really want to get it right and keep 5-10 years
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I regret selling my 991.1 GTS NA as it was an amazing driver and the NA sound was amazing. My next fun car purchase plan was to get a 991.2 GT3 but I was starting to re think about getting a 992.1 GTS instead until I started learning about the new 992.2 GTS will be coming out as NA/mild hybrid. Now I worry if I buy a used 992.1 GTS turbo the value will drop when the 992.2 GTS NA comes out and I will miss the NA sound? May have to rethink my next Porsche purchase plans now?
991.2 GT3 or 992.1 GTS or wait in line for a 992.2 GTS NA
Goal of my next 911 purchase is a for fun Porsche club events car (My track days are done now however), Saturday cars and coffee and not a daily driver. But will take wife out to dinner now and then. My next Porsche most likely will be my last toy car purchase so really want to get it right and keep 5-10 years
991.2 GT3 or 992.1 GTS or wait in line for a 992.2 GTS NA
Goal of my next 911 purchase is a for fun Porsche club events car (My track days are done now however), Saturday cars and coffee and not a daily driver. But will take wife out to dinner now and then. My next Porsche most likely will be my last toy car purchase so really want to get it right and keep 5-10 years
Burning Brakes
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I regret selling my 991.1 GTS NA as it was an amazing driver and the NA sound was amazing. My next fun car purchase plan was to get a 991.2 GT3 but I was starting to re think about getting a 992.1 GTS instead until I started learning about the new 992.2 GTS will be coming out as NA/mild hybrid. Now I worry if I buy a used 992.1 GTS turbo the value will drop when the 992.2 GTS NA comes out and I will miss the NA sound? May have to rethink my next Porsche purchase plans now?
991.2 GT3 or 992.1 GTS or wait in line for a 992.2 GTS NA
Goal of my next 911 purchase is a for fun Porsche club events car (My track days are done now however), Saturday cars and coffee and not a daily driver. But will take wife out to dinner now and then. My next Porsche most likely will be my last toy car purchase so really want to get it right and keep 5-10 years
991.2 GT3 or 992.1 GTS or wait in line for a 992.2 GTS NA
Goal of my next 911 purchase is a for fun Porsche club events car (My track days are done now however), Saturday cars and coffee and not a daily driver. But will take wife out to dinner now and then. My next Porsche most likely will be my last toy car purchase so really want to get it right and keep 5-10 years
very good point(s)
I would take 992.2 NA even if it had mild hybrid setup.
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In the end, it's a sports car, so one kind of has to adjust their expectations to a reasonable level. Quite a few times, I've been driving several hours at a stretch on the German Autobahn with my average speed above 240 km/h (150 mph) and it certainly does get loudish but not too much for me to slow down or enjoy the experience any less.. Less noise or not, it's a friggin awesome of a car, and despite the initial criticism, I hope Porsche pulls a rabbit or two out of the hat to make the 992.2 even better!
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for noise, have you tried different tire pressures, tire brands or adding some insulation on the rear fender liners or doors? trading in a 911 for another for noise seems a awfully big expense. 911s have never been quiet. I drove a new 911 with Pirelli tires and couldn’t believe how much louder it was over Michelin on the same roads.
I get that some people are more sensitive to certain noise or frequencies than others at different speeds. maybe a tire change would work.
I get that some people are more sensitive to certain noise or frequencies than others at different speeds. maybe a tire change would work.
Last edited by BED997; Mar 18, 2024 at 08:36 PM.
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From: Right below the Northern Lights, when not travelling all around.
for noise, have you tried different tire pressures, tire brands or adding some insulation on the rear fender liners or doors? trading in a 911 for another for noise seems a awfully big expense. 911s have never been quiet. I drove a new 911 with Pirelli tires and couldn’t believe how much louder it was over Michelin on the same roads.
I get that some people are more sensitive to certain noise or frequencies than others at different speeds. maybe a tire change would work.
I get that some people are more sensitive to certain noise or frequencies than others at different speeds. maybe a tire change would work.
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My apology don't want to step on anyones toes but, i don't want anything to do with the name Hybrid on a 911. I don't care what motor it is. I don't want to see that hybrid gauge going up and down while driving it, especially on a 911.
I just don't want the name Hybrid period.
I dropped on my
for my wife to allow me to get another 992. Sold my manual chalk 992 4S to get a 4GTS Manual which is scheduled to arrive soon, this will be my last 911. Actually she's getting it for my 50th birthday 
- NA Turbo
- AWD
- Manual
- 4 Seater
Check, check, check & check.
There isn't a better feeling in the world (First of all we Talking about cars lol) then clicking Build my 911 and you see all the 911's and then you choose: Coupe, Manual, AWD and only two 911's pop up, the 4S and 4GTS for me that is very cool.
Wish you all the best!
I just don't want the name Hybrid period.
I dropped on my
for my wife to allow me to get another 992. Sold my manual chalk 992 4S to get a 4GTS Manual which is scheduled to arrive soon, this will be my last 911. Actually she's getting it for my 50th birthday - NA Turbo
- AWD
- Manual
- 4 Seater
Check, check, check & check.
There isn't a better feeling in the world (First of all we Talking about cars lol) then clicking Build my 911 and you see all the 911's and then you choose: Coupe, Manual, AWD and only two 911's pop up, the 4S and 4GTS for me that is very cool.
Wish you all the best!