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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 05:23 PM
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First good pictures i've seen of the new engine cover. Interesting. If that's it I had hoped for better as its one of my least favorite elements on the .1.
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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 05:31 PM
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That rear bumper!!! What the **** Porsche? Its like Corvette C8’s problem of back of the car being designed by another team. Who came up with this?
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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 08:19 PM
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I recently received a notification from Automotive News pertaining to an article related to Porsche. Screenshot of the bottom half of the article is below.


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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 09:31 PM
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It seems that we are getting very close to the official announcement of 992.2 since more clear pictures of the new bumpers (and the engine grill) without any coverings or tapings "accidentally" emerge on Instagram almost every other day now (and also because of the yesterday's official press announcement obviously). Same happened previously with the new GT3 for example... Up next we should expect to see a video or two about a Porsche exec giving a sneak peek of the new 911 (still partially covered etc.) to handpicked youtubers and/or journalists..

Btw, the bumper with the vertical slats is the new Sport Design bumper. Most often also seen in cars with the full Aerokit. The one with the horizontal slats is the new regular bumper. What makes it confusing is that some of the mules wearing the Sport Design bumper under (with vertical slats) have additional pieces of plastic "covers" taped on the slats area and those are equipped with horizontal slats as well. The end result is that the bumper seems to have both the vertical AND the horizontal slats at the same time. The shape and rough outline of these "covers" along with tapings can be seen relatively clearly on some of the more accurate pictures of the test mules if examined carefully.

Not sure yet whether the new engine grill shown in the most recent "spy pics" is an improvement on the current one or not. I myself don't have a big issue with the current one either but have been looking forward to some sort of a more sporty upgrade. Perhaps this is it once we see it on the newly published car. The new one btw. also seems to lose the 911 and 992 "easter egg" hints (calculated from the amount of slats on both sides and altogether) or then I just don't get it with the new one.. The entire back of the car and the new Sport Design rear bumper with the center pipes remind me of the stance and looks of the GT3 Touring...

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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by slc4s
The cars without the horizontal slats tend to have side skirts (and that bumper is much more aggressive looking to my eye). With horizontal slats, no side skirts, more moderate front lip, and less aggressive looking. Certainly doesn't confirm which one is sport design but to me its the most likely. Both bumpers have the automatic fins now if you look closely.
The horizontal “ribs” are a bit of a red herring. They’ve grafted horizontal ribs as camouflage onto the bumper with the automatic vertical slats.

We know side skirts can be easily changed out, so they may not be a good indicator of which bumper is the default bumper and which bumper is the sport design bumper.

Here is my analysis of these photographs…

(1) Bumper with the automatic vertical slats camouflaged with horizontal ribs. The spoiler lip is probably camouflaged, but the resolution is too low for me to tell.

(2) Bumper with the automatic vertical slats without camouflage in front. The spoiler lip is probably camouflaged, but the resolution is too low for me to tell.

(3) Bumper with the automatic vertical slats in CLOSED position, without camouflage in front.

(4) Bumper with the automatic vertical slats in OPEN position, without camouflage in front.

(5) Bumper without automatic slats, without camouflage. I think this is the sport design bumper because it has large air intakes and has a cleaner design, keeping with the design philosophy of the 992.1 sport design bumper, which also has no movable parts. If you look carefully, these horizontal ribs are quite different from the ones in (1).

The automatic vertical slats will appear on the default bumper because they help Porsche minimize drag for better fuel economy in highway driving, and this will help meet the EPA mandates. It is critical that the most aerodynamic bumper be offered as a standard no-cost feature, because that is the configuration used in EPA testing. Consequently, the less aerodynamic bumper, without automatic slats, will be offered as an optional sport deign package.







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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 10:22 PM
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They just had to change the exhaust so that no one can take their $8,000 Kline over to the .2
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 03:18 PM
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[QUOTE=TheGreatJ;19331139]It seems that we are getting very close to the official announcement of 922.2 since more clear pictures of the new bumpers (and the engine grill) without any coverings or tapings "accidentally" emerge on Instagram almost every other day now (and also because of the yesterday's official press announcement obviously). Same happened previously with the new GT3 for example... Up next we should expect to see a video or two about a Porsche exec giving a sneak peek of the new 911 (still partially covered etc.) to handpicked youtubers and/or journalists..

Id agree these "coordinated" spy shots will start appearing more regularly. This instagramer has a pretty good portfolio of P-car pictures over last couple of years. If he were truly a car "spy" and a nut like us, he'd have snapped multiple angles and many interior shots especially since the dash change is a big deal. But Im sure his access to this car was predicated on a conversation of what could be photo-ed and what could not.
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGreatJ
It seems that we are getting very close to the official announcement of 922.2 since more clear pictures of the new bumpers (and the engine grill) without any coverings or tapings "accidentally" emerge on Instagram almost every other day now (and also because of the yesterday's official press announcement obviously). Same happened previously with the new GT3 for example... Up next we should expect to see a video or two about a Porsche exec giving a sneak peek of the new 911 (still partially covered etc.) to handpicked youtubers and/or journalists..

Id agree these "coordinated" spy shots will start appearing more regularly. This instagramer has a pretty good portfolio of P-car pictures over last couple of years. If he were truly a car "spy" and a nut like us, he'd have snapped multiple angles and many interior shots especially since the dash change is a big deal. But Im sure his access to this car was predicated on a conversation of what could be photo-ed and what could not.
I’m sure you’re right. If it’s me with the camera I’m diving under the back bumper and getting as many shots as possible of the engine/turbo’s etc.
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 03:43 PM
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Not liking what I am seeing but not interested in the .2 any way even if it looked better than the .1- which it does not
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGreatJ
It seems that we are getting very close to the official announcement of 922.2 since more clear pictures of the new bumpers (and the engine grill) without any coverings or tapings "accidentally" emerge on Instagram almost every other day now (and also because of the yesterday's official press announcement obviously). Same happened previously with the new GT3 for example... Up next we should expect to see a video or two about a Porsche exec giving a sneak peek of the new 911 (still partially covered etc.) to handpicked youtubers and/or journalists..
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Id agree these "coordinated" spy shots will start appearing more regularly. This instagramer has a pretty good portfolio of P-car pictures over last couple of years. If he were truly a car "spy" and a nut like us, he'd have snapped multiple angles and many interior shots especially since the dash change is a big deal. But Im sure his access to this car was predicated on a conversation of what could be photo-ed and what could not.
Exactly!

Eagerly looking forward to what's up next... Potentially a fresh but yet still somewhat murky (for whatever reason) shot of the new dash? I guess we've only had one of those and it's ages old already (or not too many at least). That would be a surefire thing of the imminent launch.

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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGreatJ
Exactly!

Eagerly looking forward to what's up next... Potentially a fresh but yet still somewhat murky (for whatever reason) shot of the new dash? I guess we've only had one of those and it's ages old already (or not too many at least). That would be a surefire thing of the imminent launch.
What’s up next? The biggest technology change in the 911 in 25 years when Porsche transitioned from air cooled to water cooled drive train. Actually , the changes to the 992.2 are bigger because in 1998 Porsche could draw on 50+ years of experience in water cooled technology from other manufacturers. Now they must rely on Elon Musk and all the the manufacturers are all flying from the seat of their pants. You want a 992.2? Best wishes. Ask me again in 3 years. Your opinion may differ and that’s OK.

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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
What’s up next? The biggest technology change in the 911 in 25 years when Porsche transitioned from air cooled to water cooled drive train. Actually , the changes to the 992.2 are bigger because in 1998 Porsche could draw on 50+ years of experience in water cooled technology from other manufacturers. Now they must rely on Elon Musk and all the the manufacturers are all flying from the seat of their pants. You want a 992.2? Best wishes. Ask me again in 3 years. Your opinion may differ and that’s OK.
Electric motor is older than ICE. Porsche’s first car was electric. All the other tech going into hybrids has been around a long time.
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 08:38 PM
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That rear bumper!!! What the **** Porsche? Its like Corvette C8’s problem of back of the car being designed by another team. Who came up with this?
Maybe they are redesigning the intercooler vent outlets? We also do not yet know if there are two rear bumper designs like in the 992.1.
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
Electric motor is older than ICE. Porsche’s first car was electric. All the other tech going into hybrids has been around a long time.
Ha ha. You are mistaken. The Lohner Porsche is not older than the ICE. Research it. The Lohner Porsche had a previously developed ICE. And it was not Porsche’s first car. It was Lohner’s who hired the Porsche firm to consult. Porsche did not manufacture cars in 1900. But comparing the 1900 Lohner vehicle (which was designed by Dr. Porsche) to a current hybrid/EV vehicle is a really BIG stretch! Like comparing a Model T to a 2024 Mustang GT. The 4 electric motors in the 1900 Lohner produced a peak of 7 hp per motor for very short periods and the 4 motors alone weighed 1300 Lbs. And it was not an EV, BTW. It was a hybrid. It had an ICE generating electricity to the giant electric motors on the wheels. Not a plug in either. Excellent creativity and ingenuity by Dr. Porsche I agree,…..but never produced for obvious reasons.
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 09:13 PM
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The 48V mild hybrid system in the base trims is nothing from a "new tech" perspective. Turn off auto start/stop and its pretty much invisible. The trims that have the THEV system, those are going to be adventurous purchases for people, beta testers.
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