nzskater

This madness is USA only isn’t it?

DHL

Never used to be. And pre OBD2 cars still need to be sniffed in CA. I am of the opinion that sniff tests are no longer required in CA on OBD2 vehicles because many were flunking the sniff tests with no CEL light. An embarrassment to the CARB because they like to claim the OBD2 system is infallible and always detects faults related to emissions

The real issue is that no smog station sniffer can duplicate the actual emissions tests done by OEMs to pass smog requirements. These require dynos set up with specific driving cycle loads, connected to mass spectrometers that sample the exhaust gasses (collected in large plastic bags) and computed in grams/mile. Most likely the "cheating" done by VW and Porsche has to do with what "modes" the cars are in during this OEM test, as well as specific hardware equipped on the test vehicles (for example like larger cats, with supplemental heaters) that may or may not have been included in production cars. Perhaps the test cars did not have the "sport chrono" modes while being tested, and as such called into question the legality of emissions tests on that vehicle.

The law suites are the result of ambitious law firms who talked a couple of Porsche owners to sign up. They may have been the result of Porsche's own admissions to German authorities that they "inadvertently" cheated during an emissions test due to some employee not following procedures. All the law firms have to do is find a few owners who claim to be wronged by the admissions Porsche cheated and voila, instant money!

Wolpertinger

Looks like it's here in Canada, too. My dealer confirmed it's a thing. What actions individual dealers are taking, I have no idea. Certainly seems to be fewer vehicles on their websites, though.

flsupraguy

Just bought a 991.1 targa gts yesterday from an exotic dealer. No sport chrono stop sale bs (thank god).

LexVan

I can tell you didn't read this whole thread!

HNY! Congrats on your new car.

FYI. Stop Sale Order only applies to official Porsche dealerships and VIN specific.

flsupraguy

Thanks! I love it. I have the attention span of a two year old so I doubt i have ever fully read a thread lol

acwild70

Any new news?

Redonkulous

Crickets...

Wolpertinger

Other than the possibility of space aliens from the planet Zoltar reprogramming our ECU's, I think all avenues of conjecture have been exhausted. All we can do now is wait for the facts.

spiderv6

For the what? No, no, we don't do that any more in the US.

HeightsAg

Got an update from the Dallas Porsche dealer where I have a deposit on a Cayman subject to this stop sale. They said they expect this could be "4-6 months" until it is resolved. Crossing fingers that it will not be that long.

SConn

I was curious, so I called up Porsche Beaverton to give them my VIN to see if my GTS is effected in this stop sale campaign. He entered my VIN and nothing pulled up, however, he then admitted he knew nothing about the stop sale. Hadn't heard anything about it.

I'm hoping this means my car isn't effected but I'm not holding my breath either. I still am not losing sleep over this. I love the car, plan to keep the car and just ride this out.

991.1 Guy

The dealer today told me that the dealership will be compensated for taking “stop sale” vehicles into inventory.

.2PDK

I hope you're a patient man...

My991

What is the dealers proposition, is it FMV or that plus extra cash for upgrades?