Consolidated 991RS thread
02-14-2015, 04:40 PM
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02-14-2015, 04:43 PM
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Very simple: for the guys that want max performance on the track but don't want to tow. Not something I advocate but there are folks out there that fit this profile. The Florida DE crowd fit that bill to a T but almost all have since wised up and bought real race cars for tracking.
Price bump and likelihood that it could be last of the N/A RS's virtually guarantees that fewer will get tracked and more will get wrapped.
Price bump and likelihood that it could be last of the N/A RS's virtually guarantees that fewer will get tracked and more will get wrapped.
I agree 100%. But then you could buy a 2008 997.1 GT3 cup car for much less than 991 GT3 and make the same argument. On slicks it would be fractionally faster than 991 GT3 on factory tires same driver.
Why doe people buy GT3. Mostly prestige and convenience. It means you can own one car for all occasions although it may never be the best in any one category. For RS reason is often also for collect-ability and retention of value.
Why doe people buy GT3. Mostly prestige and convenience. It means you can own one car for all occasions although it may never be the best in any one category. For RS reason is often also for collect-ability and retention of value.
02-14-2015, 04:44 PM
#4293
My speculation on the new RS is:
In the past it has been a question of if you thought the extra costs of the RS was worth it.
I believe what we will see on the new GT3RS vs. GT3 will be a matter of what you prefer rather than a question of money.
Only speculation from my side, but only time will tell
GT3Bang
In the past it has been a question of if you thought the extra costs of the RS was worth it.
I believe what we will see on the new GT3RS vs. GT3 will be a matter of what you prefer rather than a question of money.
Only speculation from my side, but only time will tell
GT3Bang
02-14-2015, 05:31 PM
#4295
Then I'll flog it to within an inch of its life at the track every opportunity there is. The only time it will see a normal road will be driving to and from the track. Might even put it on a boat over to NZ and tour the tracks of the long white cloud with Macca.... Can't wait !!
02-14-2015, 05:50 PM
#4296
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As far as performance/track/track day cars are concerned, I'd pay goooooooooood money for a chart like that to include not just Porsches, but every car from a Mazda Miata Miata to a Ferrari FXX K - then hang it on the wall.
Good Stuff!
02-14-2015, 06:30 PM
#4297
... And I am in this target group you mention 
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02-14-2015, 06:36 PM
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02-14-2015, 06:40 PM
#4300
The premium price for the GT3 RS vs. GT3 is only a cash flow element: A RS holds value better than the GT3 so you have a better ROI at the end with the RS. I have made the experience with a 997.2 GT3 and then a 997.2 GT3 RS.
02-14-2015, 06:53 PM
#4301
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Yep, the first thing I'll be doing is swapping out all the items from my GT3 into the RS such as front cage, headers, straight through pipes, will also fit up the Mo'vit ceramics. Then I'll flog it to within an inch of its life at the track every opportunity there is. The only time it will see a normal road will be driving to and from the track. Might even put it on a boat over to NZ and tour the tracks of the long white cloud with Macca.... Can't wait !!
We are attending South Island track your mid March 2016. It's all four tracks in South Island including Highlands. We did it last year and based ourselves out of Queenstown. Best time ever and some great driving roads between days on track. You need 10 days to pull it off assuming your car is all ready for you at Highlands. You should join us - I'll send you through details later in year when they are available - it's not expensive and we will reserve our own 10 car group but it does get heavily subscribed...
02-14-2015, 06:57 PM
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Yep, the first thing I'll be doing is swapping out all the items from my GT3 into the RS such as front cage, headers, straight through pipes, will also fit up the Mo'vit ceramics. Then I'll flog it to within an inch of its life at the track every opportunity there is. The only time it will see a normal road will be driving to and from the track. Might even put it on a boat over to NZ and tour the tracks of the long white cloud with Macca.... Can't wait !!
02-14-2015, 07:09 PM
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I guess it depends on your wallet and how hard core you are. I've just found the "ease" of a modern Porsche after 14 years with my 993RS spec which is track modified and very "focused" compared to the modern stuff...
02-14-2015, 07:41 PM
#4304
Unfortunately I think you are right especially in some RHD markets like UK where used 991 GT3 values are already 50% above what they sold for in 2013/14! Speculators are already estimating UK new 991 GT3RS will immediately change hands +50K GBP premium! Less than 20% of production is RHD and only 20% of that 20% will get used regulkarly on teh track I believe. Due to Porsche appreciation bubble world wide my money is on the fact that 991 GT3 RS will immediately become collectable and this no so easy to validate hard usage on track. A real shame but as you say most will become Wrapped not Tracked. I know a dozen guys on this board who will drive hem hard at track but they are a very niche group globally... All IMHO of course :-)
02-14-2015, 07:44 PM
#4305
My '11 GT3RS was fun to look at and occasionally drive (I don't track my cars) but that was about it. If I get an allocation I may do it but I may not trade my GT3 in on it. The GT3 would be hard to replace if I decide the RS is too hard core. Wish I could drive one first.