Consolidated 991RS thread
02-14-2015, 02:01 PM
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Interesting also that the GT4 is placed more rawer than the GT3...
Really looking forward to this and Thanks again!
02-14-2015, 02:12 PM
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Interesting to see an official yet quite subjective/qualitative metric like day-to-day usability from PAG, and how they interpret these cars to line up in that regard, even if it seems a touch "markety" to me. Thanks!
02-14-2015, 03:23 PM
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The reason the GT4 is considered "more compromised" for the street is due to the relatively firmer spring rates, lack of PDK & Lift.
The 991 RS is definitely a gift for those who cannot afford/justify a new or used Cup car as a dedicated track machine and who are blessed to live fairly close by to a race track. The car is more useable because of lift and PDK but much more firm due to spring created by aero. In fact the car is to most of us no less useable than GT4 on the street. Perhaps that circle should be similar to GT4 in terms of its skew regards drive ability but marketing like to compartmentalise....
02-14-2015, 04:03 PM
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250 300 kg heavier than a Cup and stiffer than Gt3
uhmm i have really to think if worth make stiffer my own GT3 or the 50k extra money for RS
uhmm i have really to think if worth make stiffer my own GT3 or the 50k extra money for RS
02-14-2015, 04:16 PM
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I agree. The car will be 50-55K Euro higher and on the road the performance difference certainly wont be reflected. Fr a long or fast track the RS will be money better invested. For appreciation the RS will be money well invested but perhaps not as often enjoyed.
02-14-2015, 04:27 PM
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The 991 RS is definitely a gift for those who cannot afford/justify a new or used Cup car as a dedicated track machine and who are blessed to live fairly close by to a race track. The car is more useable because of lift and PDK but much more firm due to spring created by aero.
02-14-2015, 04:33 PM
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In the US, 997 cup is about half the price of the 991 RS. And with slicks on the 997, which I assume would void the warranty on the RS, I anticipate that the 997 will still be faster than the RS on OEM tires. Then add that the RS may be too rough on the road, and that leaves me wondering why someone would take the RS, when a cup is better on the track, and a regular GT3 is better on the road while being almost as fast on the track.
Price bump and likelihood that it could be last of the N/A RS's virtually guarantees that fewer will get tracked and more will get wrapped.
02-14-2015, 04:35 PM
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In the US, 997 cup is about half the price of the 991 RS. And with slicks on the 997, which I assume would void the warranty on the RS, I anticipate that the 997 will still be faster than the RS on OEM tires. Then add that the RS may be too rough on the road, and that leaves me wondering why someone would take the RS, when a cup is better on the track, and a regular GT3 is better on the road while being almost as fast on the track.
Why doe people buy GT3. Mostly prestige and convenience. It means you can own one car for all occasions although it may never be the best in any one category. For RS reason is often also for collect-ability and retention of value.
02-14-2015, 04:36 PM
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In the US, 997 cup is about half the price of the 991 RS. And with slicks on the 997, which I assume would void the warranty on the RS, I anticipate that the 997 will still be faster than the RS on OEM tires. Then add that the RS may be too rough on the road, and that leaves me wondering why someone would take the RS, when a cup is better on the track, and a regular GT3 is better on the road while being almost as fast on the track.
Ideally I see myself with a GT4 and RS, or GT3 and RS if I can swing it.
02-14-2015, 04:36 PM
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Very simple: for the guys that want max performance on the track but don't want to tow. Not something I advocate but there are folks out there that fit this profile. The Florida DE crowd fit that bill to a T but almost all have since wised up and bought real race cars for tracking.
Price bump and likelihood that it could be last of the N/A RS's virtually guarantees that fewer will get tracked and more will get wrapped.
Price bump and likelihood that it could be last of the N/A RS's virtually guarantees that fewer will get tracked and more will get wrapped.
02-14-2015, 04:40 PM
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Due to Porsche appreciation bubble world wide my money is on the fact that 991 GT3 RS will immediately become collectable and this no so easy to validate hard usage on track. A real shame but as you say most will become Wrapped not Tracked. I know a dozen guys on this board who will drive hem hard at track but they are a very niche group globally...
All IMHO of course :-)