Any Rennlisters from New Zealand?
01-02-2014, 06:17 AM
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Doug - forget the air-cooled itch. This has to be your next car - perfect for you. http://www.911virgin.com/porschefors...pyder(Manual)/
Here's some of what I've learned....
Less than 2,000 were made. Most popular in the USA where there are around 700-800 and they suit the climate, esp CA.
Lots of soul and performance due to weight loss due to aluminium doors and lids plus the umbrella roof, lowered customised performance suspension, super light wheels and 320hp.
Value appreciation potential due to rarity and the special nature and driving enjoyment of the car.
Over estimated the speed of putting the roof on, 3 minutes, not 1:30.
The purists in future will value the ones with no air con and no radio, + PCCB brakes (lightness) which most examples don't have as they were added on options.
IMO still, in our climate only good as a second car, for spirited drives and track days with the hood permanently off, under a cover during the week in the garage.... not a DD.... Imagine dropping into a shop or two with the sun shining in Auckland. I always put the roof up as it will probably rain and I don't want my stuff inside stolen (radar detector, stereo head unit with integrated ipad). That sh&t would have to go.
Also think I could get close to the performance with a 981S well spec'd and a few lightweight options, eg lithium battery et al. However, it would have less soul and would depreciate not hold value or appreciate. But at least I could use it and I put heaps of miles onto my cars.
Dammit Pete, look what you've done. Despite all this I would love one :-P
01-02-2014, 06:50 AM
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Whew that's good luck to get through all that Michael, makes you value the little guy that bit more I bet.
Doug You might need to harden up a bit and bite the bullet. I bet no aftermarket suspension could match the Spyder for all round competence rod and track. Might just need to keep the lid on a bit more. Auckland isn't cold - much colder down here. The other option is to wait for the new Spyder
Doug You might need to harden up a bit and bite the bullet. I bet no aftermarket suspension could match the Spyder for all round competence rod and track. Might just need to keep the lid on a bit more. Auckland isn't cold - much colder down here. The other option is to wait for the new Spyder
01-02-2014, 06:52 AM
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A big congrats Michael.
With Hannah, our second daughter, things got very tricky for a while as she had the umbilical cord wrapped around her several times and wasn't looking too good. The mid-wife quietly says to me, Paul - push the red button over there, and so I calmly did as I was told............
I swear 6-8 specialists fell out of he ceiling, ran through the door and popped out of cupboards within seconds, things were super scary for a few minutes and I don't think I have ever felt so helpless or so incredibly grateful to people as you are totally powerless at the time, and 100 or less years ago, baba would not have made it.......??
Upon reflection, my immediate thoughts where to not begrudge paying taxes - and to have an incredible respect for doctors
Enough said - back to surfing 993 go-faster options............
With Hannah, our second daughter, things got very tricky for a while as she had the umbilical cord wrapped around her several times and wasn't looking too good. The mid-wife quietly says to me, Paul - push the red button over there, and so I calmly did as I was told............
I swear 6-8 specialists fell out of he ceiling, ran through the door and popped out of cupboards within seconds, things were super scary for a few minutes and I don't think I have ever felt so helpless or so incredibly grateful to people as you are totally powerless at the time, and 100 or less years ago, baba would not have made it.......??
Upon reflection, my immediate thoughts where to not begrudge paying taxes - and to have an incredible respect for doctors
Enough said - back to surfing 993 go-faster options............
01-02-2014, 02:38 PM
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Ha ha, thanks for the insightful advice Graeme. I'd love to have a little play with one :-)
01-02-2014, 02:56 PM
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A big congrats Michael. With Hannah, our second daughter, things got very tricky for a while as she had the umbilical cord wrapped around her several times and wasn't looking too good. The mid-wife quietly says to me, Paul - push the red button over there, and so I calmly did as I was told............ I swear 6-8 specialists fell out of he ceiling, ran through the door and popped out of cupboards within seconds, things were super scary for a few minutes and I don't think I have ever felt so helpless or so incredibly grateful to people as you are totally powerless at the time, and 100 or less years ago, baba would not have made it.......?? Upon reflection, my immediate thoughts where to not begrudge paying taxes - and to have an incredible respect for doctors Enough said - back to surfing 993 go-faster options............
As for 993 go faster options, what's the point if it's for road use and they move to 104km/hr, maximum?
01-02-2014, 03:02 PM
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The Western most [road] point seems to be Manapouri. It's only 25km further to hit this point during the Queenstown - Milford Sound day trip from Queenstown. However, the Eastern most point in NZ is far more challenging. Gisborne is not far enough Eastwards... it's the East Cape Lighthouse. I went there last Easter when Jan and I and her sister and husband (Barbara and Bruce from Dunedin) toured Eastern North Island (Martonborough, Hawkes Bay, East Cape). You need to go out East Cape Road from Te Araroa which is 20km each way, 15k of which is easy metal road. Auckland-East Cape-Havelock North direct is 12.5 hours 957km. I'd want to take a slightly more interesting route which would add 20%+ to this. See the attached maps and photos (of the direct route). An option would be for us to split the trip at Gisborne instead of Havelock North. This would make it Auckland-East Cape - Gisborne (722k, 10 hours, doable), and then Gisborne - Wellington (538, 6.5 hours, doable). We'd meet up with the other NI tourers in Wellington. The East Cape road is mostly newly resealed but, due to the nature of the soils, quite slumpy and therefore not the most comfortable. I didn't have any problems with it though, you just get shoved around in your seat a bit. Another option is to do the Auckland-East Cape run a week or two prior? I can personally tick the East Cape off as having already been done in my previous p-car but would be up for it for this part of the trip if you were. Let's sleep on it and we'll think about it further. Like Macca says, there probably won't be another relatively easy opportunity to do this in our lifetimes.
01-02-2014, 03:15 PM
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On the Porsche front, I've barely been able to give mine a thought, let alone drive it. It's great to finally get back on here and have 30 pages of new posts to read through though! Lots of Porsche goodness going on and plenty of exciting things happening this year.
Happy new year and all the best to everyone for 2014!
Happy new year and all the best to everyone for 2014!
Really pleased that all is well now and that things continue that way from here. Hope to see you in here at least occasionally - and on the track when you need some 'Dad time out.'
01-02-2014, 03:27 PM
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Jeepers Pete, I've spent hours today reading up on the Boxster Spider on RL and I'm almost in the dog box for not getting packed and ready for our departure from the deep south back north in the morning.
Here's some of what I've learned....
Less than 2,000 were made. Most popular in the USA where there are around 700-800 and they suit the climate, esp CA.
Lots of soul and performance due to weight loss due to aluminium doors and lids plus the umbrella roof, lowered customised performance suspension, super light wheels and 320hp.
Value appreciation potential due to rarity and the special nature and driving enjoyment of the car.
Over estimated the speed of putting the roof on, 3 minutes, not 1:30.
The purists in future will value the ones with no air con and no radio, + PCCB brakes (lightness) which most examples don't have as they were added on options.
IMO still, in our climate only good as a second car, for spirited drives and track days with the hood permanently off, under a cover during the week in the garage.... not a DD.... Imagine dropping into a shop or two with the sun shining in Auckland. I always put the roof up as it will probably rain and I don't want my stuff inside stolen (radar detector, stereo head unit with integrated ipad). That sh&t would have to go.
Also think I could get close to the performance with a 981S well spec'd and a few lightweight options, eg lithium battery et al. However, it would have less soul and would depreciate not hold value or appreciate. But at least I could use it and I put heaps of miles onto my cars.
Dammit Pete, look what you've done. Despite all this I would love one :-P
Here's some of what I've learned....
Less than 2,000 were made. Most popular in the USA where there are around 700-800 and they suit the climate, esp CA.
Lots of soul and performance due to weight loss due to aluminium doors and lids plus the umbrella roof, lowered customised performance suspension, super light wheels and 320hp.
Value appreciation potential due to rarity and the special nature and driving enjoyment of the car.
Over estimated the speed of putting the roof on, 3 minutes, not 1:30.
The purists in future will value the ones with no air con and no radio, + PCCB brakes (lightness) which most examples don't have as they were added on options.
IMO still, in our climate only good as a second car, for spirited drives and track days with the hood permanently off, under a cover during the week in the garage.... not a DD.... Imagine dropping into a shop or two with the sun shining in Auckland. I always put the roof up as it will probably rain and I don't want my stuff inside stolen (radar detector, stereo head unit with integrated ipad). That sh&t would have to go.
Also think I could get close to the performance with a 981S well spec'd and a few lightweight options, eg lithium battery et al. However, it would have less soul and would depreciate not hold value or appreciate. But at least I could use it and I put heaps of miles onto my cars.
Dammit Pete, look what you've done. Despite all this I would love one :-P
01-02-2014, 05:59 PM
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Or how quickly (up to 104kph) you can take corners at..........
Not necessarily go faster options - more dialing in options to suit my car set up tastes (which isn't stock 911)
01-03-2014, 12:01 AM
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Like John I'd be reluctant to buy an older car out of the UK unless I had a really reliable indy to do do full inspection. And you could burn a lot of PPI cash before settling on a good one. Also 964s (and 993s and older 911s) are way more expensive in the UK at the moment so importing makes no sense financially after you pay shipping and GST. At GBP 25k a decent 964 will be $60-65k landed here. Just not worth it.
Even a cheap Gen 1 Cayman S from the UK at around GBP 18k won't land and get on the road here much beneath $48k. Either of the silver ones at JZM would fit the bill there. Though remember the midnight blue tip at Contis a few months back was listed at $49k and had lower mileage than those. So a NZ new one would still be preferable if you can find a manual one.
But at that price you are above budget as I understand it....
So back to my advice. Buy on condition and buy the best 964 that you can afford. They are rare enough that good ones don't come around all that often and when they do in manual they don't last long. If you hang around looking for a 'bargain' then I think you'll miss the boat.
An alternative given how you want to use the car would be a manual 996 with the IMS done and the bores scoped. All the cheap ones are tipos though.
So I reckon you need to be decisive with the next car that 'floats your boat' - then we can start talking you into the next phase of mods...
As to the sweepstake of when you will actually buy a car - I will stick (optimistically!) to Feb!!
BTW - anyone reading from Hawkes Bay with a manual 964 or Cayman that they would consider selling (or who knows of one) - I know Tony is down that way over this weekend and keen to view. Nothing on TM this time of year.
01-03-2014, 12:18 AM
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Haha - can't say there wasn't a little bit of intended 'wind-up' by pointing you in that direction. But seriously, knowing you and how you like to use your cars I genuinely thought it would be perfect. But you are right, you couldn't use it as a DD in our climate unless you left the roof on for even '5% chance of rain' days. That said if you had space in the garage for a fun car - as we all know, one car can't do everything......
01-03-2014, 12:28 AM
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Tony - you know my advice!
Like John I'd be reluctant to buy an older car out of the UK unless I had a really reliable indy to do do full inspection. And you could burn a lot of PPI cash before settling on a good one. Also 964s (and 993s and older 911s) are way more expensive in the UK at the moment so importing makes no sense financially after you pay shipping and GST. At GBP 25k a decent 964 will be $60-65k landed here. Just not worth it.
Even a cheap Gen 1 Cayman S from the UK at around GBP 18k won't land and get on the road here much beneath $48k. Either of the silver ones at JZM would fit the bill there. Though remember the midnight blue tip at Contis a few months back was listed at $49k and had lower mileage than those. So a NZ new one would still be preferable if you can find a manual one.
But at that price you are above budget as I understand it....
So back to my advice. Buy on condition and buy the best 964 that you can afford. They are rare enough that good ones don't come around all that often and when they do in manual they don't last long. If you hang around looking for a 'bargain' then I think you'll miss the boat.
An alternative given how you want to use the car would be a manual 996 with the IMS done and the bores scoped. All the cheap ones are tipos though.
So I reckon you need to be decisive with the next car that 'floats your boat' - then we can start talking you into the next phase of mods...
As to the sweepstake of when you will actually buy a car - I will stick (optimistically!) to Feb!!
BTW - anyone reading from Hawkes Bay with a manual 964 or Cayman that they would consider selling (or who knows of one) - I know Tony is down that way over this weekend and keen to view. Nothing on TM this time of year.
Like John I'd be reluctant to buy an older car out of the UK unless I had a really reliable indy to do do full inspection. And you could burn a lot of PPI cash before settling on a good one. Also 964s (and 993s and older 911s) are way more expensive in the UK at the moment so importing makes no sense financially after you pay shipping and GST. At GBP 25k a decent 964 will be $60-65k landed here. Just not worth it.
Even a cheap Gen 1 Cayman S from the UK at around GBP 18k won't land and get on the road here much beneath $48k. Either of the silver ones at JZM would fit the bill there. Though remember the midnight blue tip at Contis a few months back was listed at $49k and had lower mileage than those. So a NZ new one would still be preferable if you can find a manual one.
But at that price you are above budget as I understand it....
So back to my advice. Buy on condition and buy the best 964 that you can afford. They are rare enough that good ones don't come around all that often and when they do in manual they don't last long. If you hang around looking for a 'bargain' then I think you'll miss the boat.
An alternative given how you want to use the car would be a manual 996 with the IMS done and the bores scoped. All the cheap ones are tipos though.
So I reckon you need to be decisive with the next car that 'floats your boat' - then we can start talking you into the next phase of mods...
As to the sweepstake of when you will actually buy a car - I will stick (optimistically!) to Feb!!
BTW - anyone reading from Hawkes Bay with a manual 964 or Cayman that they would consider selling (or who knows of one) - I know Tony is down that way over this weekend and keen to view. Nothing on TM this time of year.