Macca

Yes I agree but unlike many have never seen the issue of buying back. Everything is for sale at the right price. Once you really decide you want something back you find an example you like and make a very healthy offer. It's like my old RS. Most frequent question after why did you sell it is would you buy it back. The answer is probably not or else it would be in my garage right now. I don't see the original new owners of those cars running out to buy them again do you? Think about it. Ray Barker pay 270k for new 993 RS in 1995. Today he could have that same car in his garage guaranteed for 350k folding. That's half ten price he paid for it u flatiron adjusted albeit with 80000km on it. Ray's not a poor man and probably three times wealthier now than in1995. Why doesn't he have 993 RS in garage then? He still loves his cars....because you get older and you move on.

I may be too old before my time but I call spades, spades and don't preach what I'm not prepared (or have already) practiced. Much of your evolution over last 4 years has not surprised me nor others. It's stages of where you are at. Time makes a difference. So you sell your old car and you play with some new (to you) ones and you always miss the old one but not enough to actually own it again or else you would. Nothing is unobtainable if you really want it. many cars changing hands like like Sean's privately. Sean didn't want to stuff around on TM, too much going on in his life for that so he approached A third party to put the word out to a few people who have the $$$ and won't fumble on if they want it. He got a result he was happy with and so did the buyer. Sure the market may have been 5k higher (or lower) but everyone's busy earning bucks to pay for living so 5k is 5k and life moves on.

pS Pete is an example of someone moved on from 964 a few times. Seems happy where he's at. Chris M too. Jamie, Matt G, Craig with his black 997. List goes on. 997S, Cayman S, GT3, GT4, Cayman R, 911 T, 911 SC - choose your poison...

Macca

Ps in no way implying I think you should sell Herman. Would be very surprised if you did as you enjoy working on it almost as much as driving it and a later car may not provide that opportunity. I think you have created something quite personal there and should enjoy it once it's back. But we all go through life style changes (kids, income, age) so never say never I guess...

Chris_chch

Hi Pel, I still have the SC, but haven't been too serious about selling it so haven't actively pushed it as I haven't been able to find anything I'd rather have….. I think thats about to change though, so if anyone has $40k burning a hole in their pockets, let me know

O2GO

Whangarei District Council have freshened the seal on 70% of Oakura road, bar the Helena Bay Hill. Probably even smooth enough for a 996.2 GT3 now.

peterC2S

Hope you're not serious. You know what happens when 996.2 gt3 owners (especially former 993 owners) drive that road...!

996tnz

Ouch!

BTW fellow Sprinters and other racers, week 2 NZFMR pics are up at GroundSky.co.nz

Macca

Interesting. Lots of fresh loose stones Doug?

Macca

Ridiculous prices these guys all want for a few album snaps IMO. I guess they got to make a living but if they put all 11 pictures of my car on WK1 on a disc and asked $90 like they used to with the targa in the good old days I'd buy it. But at $15 an image (reasonable size) they got $45 business from me instead. Go figure. It's like having an over priced hotel with empty rooms....

O2GO

It's brand new, 50kph zone. Haven't even painted the lines yet. Fortunately past that initial wet tar stage and now ready for sweeping and painting. Right now it's definitely 50kph speeds! By April it should be pretty nice I reckon.

Runtothehills

yeah mate I think a s2 alongside the 964 is a good way to have something suited for purpose for both track and street. question is what is it going to be like at hd now, it's not ideal buying a new toy when the playground is getting expensive to visit.

The alternative is a 997 c2/s that covers both bases. impressed with mr mendes in the c4s and how he's ramped his times down

Macca

I don't think HD prices will change too much for RSGers. Pete and I have looked at this and we are confident there is a solution which should see everyone satisfied.

A 997 C2S is a great solution. With a set of track tyres. Mendes can almost catch (;-p) the 993 on z221 with his C4S on fast road tyres so I would have to say there is a late 14 in a well dialled in and set up 997S, driven competently on 221s at HD. That's fairly impressive as only 1s a lap off a 6 GT3. Mind you Chris is FNA (the Flying North American) after all!

Macca

Sounds great once it's broken in and swept up. Last time I drove that road at 50 kmph it was gravel the whole way and car sick. 1992 I think it was....:-)

gt38088

another 'alongside' qualifies as an upgrade I reckon.

kiwi 911

Doug - that's a HUGE call saying the road is 6.GT3 friendly........

Steve was doing high 13's in his targa prepped 997 2S so 997's with some moderate track prep are actually the same speed or slightly quicker than earily GT3's.............

Macca

Yeah but the 997 I wouldn't call moderately track prepared mate and Steve will always deny ant special sauce though we know there often is ;-).

Got to compare apples with apples. Boys above talking road cars not cars gutted for Comp.


Moderately track prepared = a few aftermarket suspension bits, a geo, some track pads and R comps along with some SRF and/or pads.

Pulling out all the interior furniture, seats, door cards, carpets and electrical gear etc isn't what we are talking about here.

The test I use is simple. If my wife and I can load up either of our 911s for a long weekend, drive 2000 km over a long weekend, do 2 track days and return home happy about that (both tall and one with back injury) then it's a success. We did that two weeks ago in the 993 on aggressive camber and R comps and track settings and it actually just past the test. With road tyres and softening up the PSS10 and bars we have done 5500 km in one trip but I should say it was boarder line for the last two days. I thinks the limit is 4000 for that car. The 991 GT3 can do 5500 and track days anytime without fatigue.

The wife test is the defining moment.


Steve won't put Mandy into any of his serious track cars. They have no air con, are bone jarring, loud on the chip seal and full of cages and rattles lol