Any Rennlisters from New Zealand?
05-30-2015, 08:08 PM
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Does he want to buy one? Drop me his contacts and I'll strike up a convo.
05-30-2015, 08:11 PM
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Great idea but would bump it out of class 2 Enduro (2000 - 3500). Mind you, the Seat Leon's have that space owned - were running 996 GT3 times.
Worth a look at the springs in combo with some 19" wheels - see how harsh it would be without PASM.
Going to enjoy seeing you pioneer this sort of build in NZ. Plenty done offshore so should be a good base of ideas and experience.
John, I think Doug has it nailed - the R is perfect as is for trackdays - wheels/rubber/fluids and you are sorted. A half cage if you really feel the need. But racing is a whole different thing - you;d need to decide what sort of class to run in - a one off R would probably not fit comfortably anywhere in the NZ scene. Logcal step up from 2kcup would either be Honda Cup or a 944.... (shameless plug for more competitors there!)
I purchased the white Cayman that had an accident at Hampton Downs on Anzac day. 22,000km manual with a few bits such as lsd, upgraded sway bars, lowering springs and Heigo half cage. A bit of damage, but nothing major. Base car is a reasonable spec with PASM and Sport Chrono, but no sport seats, so I need decent seats for when we put in the full MSNZ rollcage.
End game is a Targa (race) and enduro car that's okay for road use, with componentry upgraded to GT4 spec as we go. Car is still coming apart and once that's finished the plan will come together, target being to get it back on the road reasonably quickly and in the first instance replace any parts that are broken with parts orientated towards the end game, eg. control arms, shocks etc.
Lowering springs and Heigo half cage will be available soon!
Looking forward to the NITT with a new toy!
End game is a Targa (race) and enduro car that's okay for road use, with componentry upgraded to GT4 spec as we go. Car is still coming apart and once that's finished the plan will come together, target being to get it back on the road reasonably quickly and in the first instance replace any parts that are broken with parts orientated towards the end game, eg. control arms, shocks etc.
Lowering springs and Heigo half cage will be available soon!
Looking forward to the NITT with a new toy!
Going to enjoy seeing you pioneer this sort of build in NZ. Plenty done offshore so should be a good base of ideas and experience.
Indeed I am. There are insufficient funds to race seriously if I'm ever to semi retire, so I'd still have to be measured about this.
The idea of buying the R was to avoid another road car modifications build. It worked in that I got all of the factory research on a turn key basis in what to me is an as new car. The problem is that I vacillate about what to do with it longer term. It's proven to be a fantastic B road car, so much so I'm probably starting to become a bit annoying on the runs, and it does the DD commute with no issues whatsoever, but what do I do with track etc? Herman has the gear to do it, but will never race and I'm mindful of wear and tear on a 25 year old car. The R is too close to a new car to race and is holding its value worldwide. Perversely, if its value was on the decline I'd be less precious. The answer appears to be a Gen 1 3.4 Cayman build. But how much would I spend to get where I am already?
Chris, all that aside will the Heigo fit a 987.2?
The idea of buying the R was to avoid another road car modifications build. It worked in that I got all of the factory research on a turn key basis in what to me is an as new car. The problem is that I vacillate about what to do with it longer term. It's proven to be a fantastic B road car, so much so I'm probably starting to become a bit annoying on the runs, and it does the DD commute with no issues whatsoever, but what do I do with track etc? Herman has the gear to do it, but will never race and I'm mindful of wear and tear on a 25 year old car. The R is too close to a new car to race and is holding its value worldwide. Perversely, if its value was on the decline I'd be less precious. The answer appears to be a Gen 1 3.4 Cayman build. But how much would I spend to get where I am already?
Chris, all that aside will the Heigo fit a 987.2?
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05-30-2015, 08:41 PM
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Indeed I am. There are insufficient funds to race seriously if I'm ever to semi retire, so I'd still have to be measured about this.
The idea of buying the R was to avoid another road car modifications build. It worked in that I got all of the factory research on a turn key basis in what to me is an as new car. The problem is that I vacillate about what to do with it longer term. It's proven to be a fantastic B road car, so much so I'm probably starting to become a bit annoying on the runs, and it does the DD commute with no issues whatsoever, but what do I do with track etc? Herman has the gear to do it, but will never race and I'm mindful of wear and tear on a 25 year old car. The R is too close to a new car to race and is holding its value worldwide. Perversely, if its value was on the decline I'd be less precious. The answer appears to be a Gen 1 3.4 Cayman build. But how much would I spend to get where I am already?
Chris, all that aside will the Heigo fit a 987.2?
The idea of buying the R was to avoid another road car modifications build. It worked in that I got all of the factory research on a turn key basis in what to me is an as new car. The problem is that I vacillate about what to do with it longer term. It's proven to be a fantastic B road car, so much so I'm probably starting to become a bit annoying on the runs, and it does the DD commute with no issues whatsoever, but what do I do with track etc? Herman has the gear to do it, but will never race and I'm mindful of wear and tear on a 25 year old car. The R is too close to a new car to race and is holding its value worldwide. Perversely, if its value was on the decline I'd be less precious. The answer appears to be a Gen 1 3.4 Cayman build. But how much would I spend to get where I am already?
Chris, all that aside will the Heigo fit a 987.2?
If building a race car Cayman you would be best to start with a damaged car like I am as the cost is discounted for all the damaged bits, including air bags, that you would just take out or replace anyway.
I'm not sure about the Heigo cage, at this point I have to confess that I haven't actually seen the car yet!
05-30-2015, 08:42 PM
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, small stuff first, shocks and arms etc., along with panel work and some loaned seats to get it road worthy so I can spend some time in it before the next step of a full cage, seats, etc., hopefully all done before the Porsche festival next year. Then the real hot rodding will start next year after the festival. A plan something like that anyway, we know these plans never quite work out as intended though.Shouldn't impact the orange hotrod!
05-30-2015, 08:50 PM
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Steve may have a base car to start a race car build from, ie. accident damaged Boxster. One of the issues with the Cayman I've bought is that its almost to good for a race car build, but always nice to start on the better side and end up with something tidy.
05-30-2015, 08:57 PM
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BTW this arrived for you. There are two each. You can choose what you want to do with yours. I will put one of mine on the Grinch and save the other for the Festival of Speed
Walter here's yours as well.
05-30-2015, 09:22 PM
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John. Im wanting to shake you awake! The R is the perfect all use car. Forget the value in the UK. My 991 GT3 would fetch over $300,000 NZD used with 12,000km on it in the UK. In NZ its a depreciating car! Just like your Cayman R I am afraid. More so when used GT4 start hitting the market I suspect. Just use it all up and squeeze every ounce of enjoyment and value from it. Its already proven the perffect B road and DD car and as Doug says all you need is some pads and fluid and some tyres and you can find out how the other half are living down at the pointy end of the stick at the race track. Its not an overly expensive vehicle to have on the track (worth less than a number of 964 & 993 these days) and as long as you are insured all will be well. To worry over its value after you just bought it is nonsense. You can rest assured it aint going to be a problem time soon in the NZ market. If if it were join everyone with an aircooled in this dilemma. Herman is old and never going to be much quicker. Deserves a little holiday like my old girl. The new gear is quick, safe and low cost per track KM. Fun to play with for a while, maybe bring Herman out to play again in a year or two when you are bored tracking the Cayman R. All IMO of course and no offence meant...
05-30-2015, 09:24 PM
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Im starting to worry about the stability of those Caymans when driven fast aye. On 28 April the Cayman S, 200m in front of me spun in the wet and did all four corners at HD (and will now become Chris B Targa car *****). Then on 17 May the Cayman R behind me on the Targa Tour Bambino did some farming. Last year the CCS Cayman S in front of Chris B on the TT (it was the lead pace car) went off the road into a paddock! Maybe Im attracting the bad cayman JuJU Im a bit worried for when I get the GT4 guys. Seriously! :-)
I guess you call this a bite. LOL
05-30-2015, 09:28 PM
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LOL! Touche! GT3s ARE unstable - they are hairy assed 911s at the end of the day with the engine hanging out the *** and in the pouring rain on R comps I do believe they spin as I have witnesses (Neil and a few others too)!
05-30-2015, 09:29 PM
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No offence taken. I'm trying to make sure I have my thoughts clear. The R has SRF, but needs better pads (OEM Textar now) and tyres. I go to the tire rack site and stop when I see the wheel/tyre package cost. I may just put cups on the Spyder rims. The other option is a local set of 18"in rims and Z221s. Holding me back is that I already have spares for Herman, including Z214 fronts ex Paul. There are only so many tyres and rims I can fit under the house. Then there is the question of insurance, one reason I enjoy the B road runs so much as I'm covered for that.
05-30-2015, 09:32 PM
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No offence taken. I'm trying to make sure I have my thoughts clear. The R has SRF, but needs better pads (OEM Textar now) and tyres. I go to the tire rack site and stop when I see the wheel/tyre package cost. I may just put cups on the Spyder rims. The other option is a local set of 18"in rims and Z221s. Holding me back is that I already have spares for Herman, including Z214 fronts ex Paul. There are only so many tyres and rims I can fit under the house. Then there is the question of insurance, one reason I enjoy the B road runs so much as I'm covered for that.
As for insurance. Easy. break your lifetime habit and get insured on the Cayman R with Prestigio for the track. Easy peasy and then no worries left. Not sure what's holding you back :-)
05-30-2015, 09:39 PM
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I have exactly the same dilemma with the RS60. 4 sets of wheels for Lola. I have a 17" set of track wheels which fit the RS60 and make her look like a SUV. I think 18" are the way to go. Should have bought Chris M's 18" OZ when I had the chance. Tony has them now for his Cayman
Btw how about July for the East Cape run? The weeks up until the Dunlop 800 will be busy.
05-30-2015, 09:40 PM
