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In a traditional positive displacement SC system that sits on top of the engine, cooling would be challenging since there is no cool air that flows directly on top of the engine. One way would be to redirect cold air using a scoop on the roof or on the rear hatch. Another method would be to use a heat exchanger surrounding the SC that uses a fluid that runs towards an exposed external radiator (side vents or all the way to the front of the car).
Should be interesting to see what the various Tuners come up as forced induction products for the C8 Stingray.
I considered FI for my NSX, but I didn't like what was available. Pretty much Comptech or SOS, thats it. I am excited to see what the aftermarket is going to bring to the C8. There should be lots of options to choose from. Exciting times!
No question, Porsche's Mexico Blue is a rare and beautiful color, I would not be too worried about it standing out. Chevy is saying that they will start producing vettes in Rapid Blue later on in the MY20 run, so you won't see any till probably summer.
But I do think the other manufacturers have caught on. I see a decent amount of Mustangs in Grabber Blue.
I flip back and forth between Rapid Blue and Sebring Orange. I bought a 2002 NSX in black back in the day, but I always wanted an Imola Orange. I might just go that way with the C8.
Whew, man. That corvette needs a drop and some spacers.
LOL Ok Just what I thought, it's from what you read. I've driven a GT2 RS but never a ZR1, so unlike you I won't make a judgement. But I have tracked a C7 Z06 and given the price differential between the two: $325K for the GT2 RS and $85K for a Z06, I'd take the the Z06 in a heartbeat. OTOH if I were a lot richer than I am and the extra $150K was chump change, I'd go with the GT2.
Hold on.... so you’re still spinning circles to avoid the question?
Has any production Vette posted up better official track times than a GT2 RS? Because you brought it up. And that was solely what my initial point was. Simple yes or no answer. What you’ve driven is irrelevant to that point.
Originally Posted by SoCal-NSX
Dude, you make a fool of yourself in just about every post, but you literally jumped the shark with this one ....lol
Do yourself and everyone on this thread a favor and take a break.
good lord
Dude. Nah.
Go into detail how I jumped the shark with that one. Interested to read then pick that apart too, lmao. I can post up GM scandals and blatant engineering comprises all day, and continue to be amused at how fanboys who want to feel good about their “$60K” purchases take personal offense to it.
I wasn’t the one who brought WW2 into this convo because I couldn’t handle the fact that you can’t get a C8 with better than a puny 15K rigidity figure, that was your friend.
Originally Posted by stealthpilot
That's not true. Knowingly lying about emissions is the same as knowingly putting lives at risk. To say otherwise is to be ignorant of the health impact of diesel emissions.
I think the bottom line here though is we shouldn't hold it against Porsche because VW seems to have learned their lesson. And so does GM.
I don’t know if either learned their lesson. They just got caught. Until the next time. GM learned plenty of lessons before the ignition malpractice. No way will I excuse a company for knowingly risking lives to save a few cents. 124 people are literally dead due to that. If I buy a C8, I’ll still hold GM accountable.
One other difference is that some VAG execs got hit with maximum prison sentences. GM execs didn’t get any sentences as far as I know, and were free to oversee the production of future cars.
The ignition switch fiasco is a long and dirty one when you actually read into it. It shouldn’t be swept under the rug, at least not just yet.
Hold on.... so you’re still spinning circles to avoid the question?
Has any production Vette posted up better official track times than a GT2 RS? Because you brought it up. And that was solely what my initial point was. Simple yes or no answer. What you’ve driven is irrelevant to that point.
Dude. Nah.
Go into detail how I jumped the shark with that one. Interested to read then pick that apart too, lmao. I can post up GM scandals and blatant engineering comprises all day, and continue to be amused at how fanboys who want to feel good about their “$60K” purchases take personal offense to it.
I wasn’t the one who brought WW2 into this convo because I couldn’t handle the fact that you can’t get a C8 with better than a puny 15K rigidity figure, that was your friend.
I don’t know if either learned their lesson. They just got caught. Until the next time. GM learned plenty of lessons before the ignition malpractice. No way will I excuse a company for knowingly risking lives to save a few cents. 124 people are literally dead due to that. If I buy a C8, I’ll still hold GM accountable.
One other difference is that some VAG execs got hit with maximum prison sentences. GM execs didn’t get any sentences as far as I know, and were free to oversee the production of future cars.
The ignition switch fiasco is a long and dirty one when you actually read into it. It shouldn’t be swept under the rug, at least not just yet.
“The Corvette looks larger than the 911, and that's because it is. The C8 is 4.4 inches longer than the 911, and its wheelbase is a whopping 10.7 inches bigger. It's also 2.5 inches lower than the 911, giving it a more planted look. The 911 measures 72.9 inches in width with the mirrors folded while the Corvette is 76.1 inches without any mirrors, so the American sports car is quite a bit wider, too. Thanks to its new mid-engine layout, the Corvette inherits a dramatic, windswept cab-forward look similar to supercars like the Ford GT, Audi R8, and Acura NSX. A bold side cutout adds visual appeal, and the boxy hipbone juts out in the rear. The 911 can be mistaken for nothing else; its skillfully sloped roofline makes a big impression when looking at the side profile. It's tauter than the Corvette and makes an argument for the case "less is more." Of course, that's not what Corvette owners are looking for, though.”
992 is already huge, but this thing is a boat! No go for my backroads. I’m afraid to compare it to my 5 series sedan in size.
The “boxy hipbone” is another part that makes the exterior weird for me — in addition to the gratuitous usage of edges and creases. The almost upward sloping rear lights and comparatively small wheels add to the rear’s heft and boxiness.
I am deep in the “less is more” camp for sports cars. Looking forward to test driving the C8 but the odds of me liking it are pretty low from what I’ve learned so far.
“The Corvette looks larger than the 911, and that's because it is. The C8 is 4.4 inches longer than the 911, and its wheelbase is a whopping 10.7 inches bigger. It's also 2.5 inches lower than the 911, giving it a more planted look. The 911 measures 72.9 inches in width with the mirrors folded while the Corvette is 76.1 inches without any mirrors, so the American sports car is quite a bit wider, too. Thanks to its new mid-engine layout, the Corvette inherits a dramatic, windswept cab-forward look similar to supercars like the Ford GT, Audi R8, and Acura NSX. A bold side cutout adds visual appeal, and the boxy hipbone juts out in the rear. The 911 can be mistaken for nothing else; its skillfully sloped roofline makes a big impression when looking at the side profile. It's tauter than the Corvette and makes an argument for the case "less is more." Of course, that's not what Corvette owners are looking for, though.”
992 is already huge, but this thing is a boat! No go for my backroads. I’m afraid to compare it to my 5 series sedan in size.
The “boxy hipbone” is another part that makes the exterior weird for me — in addition to the gratuitous usage of edges and creases. The almost upward sloping rear lights and comparatively small wheels add to the rear’s heft and boxiness.
I am deep in the “less is more” camp for sports cars. Looking forward to test driving the C8 but the odds of me liking it are pretty low from what I’ve learned so far.
For narrow roads the C8 won't be in it's ideal environment. Same thing that happens on the R8, Huracan, F458/F488, etc, wider and longer cars compared to a 911/Boxster
These are the stats for the C8 along with the other MR cars that pack an engine that has close to 500hp or more.
R8 (2nd gen) Dimensions: Wheelbase2,620 mm (103.1 in) Length4,426 mm (174.3 in) Width1,940 mm (76.4 in) Height1,240 mm (48.8 in)
Huracan Dimensions: Wheelbase2,620 mm (103.1 in) Length4,459 mm (175.6 in) Width1,924 mm (75.7 in) Height1,165 mm (45.9 in)
F458 Dimensions: Dimensions Wheelbase2,650 mm (104.3 in) Length4,527 mm (178.2 in) Width1,937 mm (76.3 in) Height1,213 mm (47.8 in)
F488 Dimensions: Dimensions Wheelbase2,650 mm (104.3 in) Length4,568 mm (179.8 in) Width1,952 mm (76.9 in) Height1,213 mm (47.8 in)
Porsche MR offerings:
Porsche GT1 Dimensions: Wheelbase 2870 (113.0 in) (From Champion Motorsports GT1 Racecar) Length4,890 mm (192.5 in) Width1,990 mm (78.3 in) Height1,140 mm (44.9 in)
Carrera GT Dimensions: Wheelbase2,730 mm (107.5 in) Length4,613 mm (181.6 in) Width1,921 mm (75.6 in) Height1,166 mm (45.9 in)
918 Dimensions: Wheelbase2,730 mm (107.5 in) Length4,643 mm (182.8 in) Width1,940 mm (76.4 in) Height1,167 mm (45.9 in)
PS: didn't include McLaren since I would not really know which one to include: MP4-12c or 650? 540/570S? or 720?
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