LnC993

This is pretty interesting, C8 is pretty much the same size as 918. And both are targa.

I see what Chevrolet is trying to do here.

STG

Thanks for the info and great points.


As seen, "size" can be compared many ways.

The C8 in the company above is very impressive for a car that starts at under $60K

If the C8 was badged as a Porsche at this price, can you imagine?? Look at it from a fresh set of eyes instead of a biased view.

2slow2speed

IMHO If you are goig to make the comparision might as well use a 991 GT3RS image instead of a run of the mill 991.

2slow2speed

Shame that PAG killed FEFI and that they just decided to make the 991RSR Mid Engine on the sly. But then again VAG has Audi and Lamborghini as well, so might have been redundant.

STG

Done

Caustic

Hmm, might be a target. That would be interesting if Chevy starts to use electric motors. They have to at some point!

The vette has nearly always been designed as roadster though, easily since the 60s as a targa.

Caustic

For an eyeball size comparison of the C7 to C8:

Noah Fect

Reminds me of the new Rabbit model:



Now, how about a photograph that wasn't carefully staged to make the smaller car look huge at the other's expense...

Nm2far

Interesting technical article. Addresses the emotive part as well. We all lament the passing of the NA Porsche engines and heap accolades on those that remain in GT guise. Hope the chassis is as much an evolutionary improvement. If so the car should be a very viscerally satisfying ride.

https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-te...but-different/

d00d

Thanks.
So the stock exhaust manifolds are cast iron, and to get the stainless steel headers one needs to specify the Z51 option.

2slow2speed

The C7GS/Z06 are big cars, wide fenders for the 285/335 tires.

FWIW: the C7 Grand Sports specs are:

Wheelbase 106.70 in
Length, Overall 177.90 in
Width, Max w/o mirrors 77.40 in
Height, Overall 48.60 in
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...tyleOne=397576

C8 Dimensions

Wheelbase107.2 in (2,723 mm)
Length182.3 in (4,630 mm)
Width76.1 in (1,933 mm) (doesn't include mirrors)
Height48.6 in (1,234 mm)

So the C8 has a slightly longer wheelbase (0.5 in) and slightly longer length (4.4 in) and is narrower (1.3 inches) vs the C7GS.
I seriously doubt that you will be able to tell a 0.5 inch difference in wheelbase and a 4.4 difference in length by a photograph.

Another set of pictures from a thread over at CorvetteForum, IIRC these were posted here on Rennlist before.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-the-wild.html

2slow2speed

That is correct based on the information from Corvetteforum.

Caustic

Thanks for that info 2slow2speed. But yeah, when I look at the picture I posted, it looks like two cars that are around the same size. But if you look closely at my picture, its really a screenshot of one frame from a bad youtube influencer video. You can watch the video and make up your own minds about it being staged. But I'm not sure the guy in the video even knows what forced perspective is.



As an aside, the 991 C2 is 3150lbs, so the difference from the projected C8 weight (3600) is 450lbs, and may be less. Not "500-600" as has been floated by K-A.
A 991 Targa is 3500lbs.

fast1

The C8's dry weight is 3366. So you are adding another 234 lbs for the curb weight which could be right, but it could be a tad lighter. Maybe in the 3570 - 3580 range. BTW the curb weight of a 992S is 3382 lbs. So the difference could be just a couple hundred lbs.

K-A

”3,600 lbs” is also conjecture, as we don’t know yet. The consensus is that it will be around 3,600 lbs, which means it can be in the mid-high 3,600’s.

Figures I’m seeing for a base and standard 991.1 Carrera (which is what I specifically used as a comparison to a base and standard C8) shows 3,042. The 991.2 added 100-150 lbs over the 991.2 and the 992 adds another 100+ lbs to that.

So comparing to a base 991.1 Coupe, the C8 can easily go to 600+ lbs heavier, if it goes over 3,642 lbs.

”Heavy” is actually not the ideal word. The 918 IS heavy, but for $1M and with their typical ‘black magic’ approach Porsche ensured they could mask that weight quite magically. Which is essentially what you pay for (even a Panamera shrinks around you far better than most smaller luxury sedans from other manufacturers, albeit still feels big). There are countless reviews of the 918 you can sift through for yourself. Of course the car is nimble and agile, but several I’ve seen state that when taking it through narrower roads, you feel and know it’s a wide car. Reviewers state that the 911 C4 feels immediately noticeably thicker on the roads than the C2 for that matter, due to the widebody fenders. Every inch goes a long way when it comes to width.

The C8 is even WIDER than the Macan (which I see listed at 75.7”). Which is insane to me as one of my biggest issues with my Macan was how wide it felt, especially in regular driving. The fact that there was so much car to the right of me being unused made it feel too bulky to be a true “drivers car.” The width felt more ungainly to me than even the height. The 991 even feels a bit too large, as Porsche guys have complained about endlessly.

The C8 is wider than a Macan, as wide as a Panamera, and roughly as long as a Macan. That’s a big car, especially sports car. It’ll take up more space in a parking spot than a Macan, which is a handful as being the paranoid parker I am, the Macan wasn’t easy to fit into every spot. One of my favorite elements of the 991 is how much more “svelte” and compact it fits into spots.