Any Rennlisters from New Zealand?
06-12-2014, 06:59 AM
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aren't we all though!? Were you happy with the work Auto Interior Specialists did for you?
06-12-2014, 07:12 AM
Pleased you're coming. Think and hope these karts will be very different to Formula E. Only went the once and didn't like them not going to a third umpire before remotely halving the power, especially since it had stuff all to start with. The gruntier combustion engine and outdoor track should make this Have a Go day a must do experience, even if its a couple of short sessions. Really looking forward to it. Maybe someone should bring a Porsche badge sticker along so we can all feel at home. Makes the GT2RS faster...
06-12-2014, 07:30 AM
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You boys will have fun in Kart session. I bet you will find the steering too sensitive. Its so direct and fast cos no suspension and bushes to make it mushy. And if you get more than 3/4 pace after a few laps the g forces will those fit lean muscular bodies to mush. haha We need feedback soon as...
06-12-2014, 11:04 AM
Ming . RS prices are very susceptible to provenience and condition. In the UK a very good car will fetch top dollar. In New Zealand you'd be lock to pull 120 for a scrappy example. Getting a car with little history and rough mechanicals and missing original factory parts and trim up to scratch is expensive. If the RS you are working on does not have its original wheels they will cost you 10k for a good set but you could spend years trying to find some. They must have the magnesium wheels to command fair money. Sam incidentally has a set if he hadn't sold them yet to a European specialist. Real bucket seats for RS also super pricey and many RS parts no longer available do advice would be to spend the money now to make it mint and build this history file with original invoices etc. May cost 50+k to get it original and mechanically perfect now possibly more but cheaper to do it now than in 10 years time....
as for the genuine RS wheels, the previous owner removed them, and put replicas on.. talking to my cousin, at the time, he was too too fussed, but since being in UK, and seeing the value of tidy RS go up, he has since found a full set of the magnesium RS wheels, not cheap, and one rim is bent as well...
well, there is a container load of RS stuff coming over for the car for the restoration.
Thanks Matt. I think Ill pass. I dont think my frequency at this stage will enable me to benefit yet from studying my intermetrics much. I still have plenty of basic stuff to learn to make up time before dissection of telemetry traces I suspect. My first challenge is to drive the same NZ circuit twice!
Nik. Those seats are ridiculously priced. I know of cheaper sets but you are still talking 8-9K NZD landed. You can have a new Recaro Pole Position set fully upholstered in factory leather and shipped with recaro sliders and side mounts for around 6K landed via SouthBound in UK (the best in the business IMO) as per their recent quote to me.
Most Asian 964RS were comfort spec. They had air con, electric windows, stronger battery, radio and comfort seats. My Sing 993RS was indeed specced this way as was the yellow 993RS from HK according to the factory build sheet (the buckets must have been added by the first owner for the track).
The white 964RS in question is also almost certainly specced this way which means its original seats would have been bolstered comfort seats (aka 3.3/3.6 turbo).
Remember 18 months ago Whittaker couldnt shift the very low KM NZ new Red 964RS for $145K NZD. No one was interested no even Higgs and the boys. Today that car would sell for $170K without question even in NZ. The only thing that has changed is the hype syurrouning these cars in teh last 12 months.
If you read Pistoheads there are two owners on there recently made "record sales" of 964RS and 993RS. I think one mint low km nicely specced UK 964RS made over 200k GBP. The 993RS was similar money. I know one of the owners (yellow RHD UK CS 993RS), car was at Maltons but the deal fell over a few days after publicised when the buyer found a much cheaper car ex Japan or somewhere and its awaiting a buyer again. As the owner said, plenty talking up the prices but when it comes to real folding its not quite what you have been told....
Nik. Those seats are ridiculously priced. I know of cheaper sets but you are still talking 8-9K NZD landed. You can have a new Recaro Pole Position set fully upholstered in factory leather and shipped with recaro sliders and side mounts for around 6K landed via SouthBound in UK (the best in the business IMO) as per their recent quote to me.
Most Asian 964RS were comfort spec. They had air con, electric windows, stronger battery, radio and comfort seats. My Sing 993RS was indeed specced this way as was the yellow 993RS from HK according to the factory build sheet (the buckets must have been added by the first owner for the track).
The white 964RS in question is also almost certainly specced this way which means its original seats would have been bolstered comfort seats (aka 3.3/3.6 turbo).
Remember 18 months ago Whittaker couldnt shift the very low KM NZ new Red 964RS for $145K NZD. No one was interested no even Higgs and the boys. Today that car would sell for $170K without question even in NZ. The only thing that has changed is the hype syurrouning these cars in teh last 12 months.
If you read Pistoheads there are two owners on there recently made "record sales" of 964RS and 993RS. I think one mint low km nicely specced UK 964RS made over 200k GBP. The 993RS was similar money. I know one of the owners (yellow RHD UK CS 993RS), car was at Maltons but the deal fell over a few days after publicised when the buyer found a much cheaper car ex Japan or somewhere and its awaiting a buyer again. As the owner said, plenty talking up the prices but when it comes to real folding its not quite what you have been told....
This RS is definitely more comfort spec, than full race spec.
powersteer, A/C, Heater etc etc.
mung23. If the RS in your garage isnt wearing the correct factory Magnesium lightweight Cup wheels (denoted by "SM" Magenesium on the facing rim) then you need to get ahold of your man in the UK and get him to purchase Sams genuine wheels ASAP! He will not find a pare to compare in Europe (Sams are very original on original paint I have inspected them and owned a set I refurbished years ago so I know exactly what Im talking about here). If you buy them via Schmidt or a specialist in Germany/.Europe you will be looking at 6-7K Euro. My advice is is you dont have the original wheels for that car snap them up now or the opportunity will be lost., The wheels EILL have an impact on teh future value of this model car expecially as its already comfort spec ex Asia - you need all the provenence you can get.
As a sidebar. My 993RS "compfort spec" weight 315kg on teh scales tank full. The factory quotes 1270kg but when you add in electric windows, comfort seats, radio and air con and normal battery you add back almost 50kg. A factory C2 without options was 1370kg (although most are more with air con and electric sunroof).
As a sidebar. My 993RS "compfort spec" weight 315kg on teh scales tank full. The factory quotes 1270kg but when you add in electric windows, comfort seats, radio and air con and normal battery you add back almost 50kg. A factory C2 without options was 1370kg (although most are more with air con and electric sunroof).
Who is the sam guy ? these might be of interested, as mentioned above, my cousin has found and brought a set, but one rim is slightly damaged.
06-12-2014, 04:22 PM
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06-12-2014, 05:31 PM
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06-12-2014, 06:36 PM
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06-12-2014, 07:03 PM
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Mung23. Just check out the VIN, make sure its a genuine 964rs before you start and get the full factory spec sheet from EMD. You cant attempt a real restoration on a car like this until you know how it was originally specced and also it would be good to have a far better understanding of the 964RS before you start. Attempting a detailed restoration in my previous experience requires an innate knowledge of what it was to start with.
Unfortunately the genuine magnesium wheels if badly bent cannot be easily/safely repaired (magnesium is very difficult to weld). It would be worth purchasing that single front wheel Doug posted to make the set whole. Sam has one of the most original full sets Ive seen and IMO will want to sell the whole set to a collector (they will no doubt go offshore to Germany or UK). If your mate is serious, depending on teh condition of what he has purchased could be worth purchasing Sams and selling off his set etc...
Just a few ideas. You can really only justify doing something like this once and at the cost of teh parts best to do it properly...
Unfortunately the genuine magnesium wheels if badly bent cannot be easily/safely repaired (magnesium is very difficult to weld). It would be worth purchasing that single front wheel Doug posted to make the set whole. Sam has one of the most original full sets Ive seen and IMO will want to sell the whole set to a collector (they will no doubt go offshore to Germany or UK). If your mate is serious, depending on teh condition of what he has purchased could be worth purchasing Sams and selling off his set etc...
Just a few ideas. You can really only justify doing something like this once and at the cost of teh parts best to do it properly...
06-13-2014, 03:14 AM
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06-13-2014, 03:20 AM
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You could sell the parts on ebay for more than the value of the car....its not a great example but I still am a bit surprised someone (one here?) hasn't picked it up yet!
06-13-2014, 03:28 AM
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