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Old 04-14-2014, 05:29 AM
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Oh....and that car on TM is almost 200k km......
Old 04-14-2014, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Macca
Paul. Thats the stolen & recovered POS isnt it? The guy was trying it on last time and I think a few people nailed him on it! As we agreed thats a car you are up for 10- 20K spend in first 12 months

993s still on average 30% more expensive in UK than 964s. In NZ probably more like 40% but due to 964s being under appreciated here.

If anyone knows anyone interested in a 1996 993 C4S NZ new nice original condition midnight blue service history 138K Km asking mid 70s lket me know as I have a line on one....
One would hope you are correct Macca, that is one big discount.
Old 04-14-2014, 06:10 AM
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Its definitely the same one....bought it for 29K a few weeks ago I believe at auction....
Old 04-14-2014, 06:17 AM
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Also, those are miles listed - not kms. Still big $change from last time listed ($52k)
Old 04-14-2014, 06:20 AM
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Yeah. I think as I say someone smoked him out on this last time. One week stolen recovered auction and next week 80% mark up.
Old 04-14-2014, 06:24 AM
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I think he paid $25k
Old 04-14-2014, 07:49 AM
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Hi guys,
I’m a newbie to the forum and after selling my 944 a few years ago I have an empty space in my garage that now needs a 911. I’m in the 993 camp but wondering what sort of pool of NZ cars there actually are to come by? I’m firm on wanting a manual and know that reduces what’s out there again too.
Otherwise the hunt is for a Mark II 996 to scratch the itch or sitting tight until my budget can make a tidy 997.
Thanks in advance, Luke
Old 04-14-2014, 07:58 AM
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Luke,

The 993 C4S NZ new for $75K that Macca mentioned above is gold dust...........if you're for real......go for that car.

There are no manual 993's for sale - I waited 2 years for mine - except the one for $40K, but budget another $20K - $40K to make an OK car.

Mine will owe me $30K over purchase price with new suspension, the usual 993 mod's and some paint correction............

The better deal is a 997 for circa $60K, but I think they are still depreciating, there isn't a fan base to support rising values yet, but I can't see why it won't come??
Old 04-14-2014, 08:23 AM
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^^^^ sage advice
Old 04-14-2014, 09:07 AM
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Many thanks for the insight and advice.

Do you see the volumes of 997's made eventually hindering a price rebound?


Originally Posted by kiwi 911
Luke,

The 993 C4S NZ new for $75K that Macca mentioned above is gold dust...........if you're for real......go for that car.

There are no manual 993's for sale - I waited 2 years for mine - except the one for $40K, but budget another $20K - $40K to make an OK car.

Mine will owe me $30K over purchase price with new suspension, the usual 993 mod's and some paint correction............

The better deal is a 997 for circa $60K, but I think they are still depreciating, there isn't a fan base to support rising values yet, but I can't see why it won't come??
Old 04-14-2014, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke944
Many thanks for the insight and advice. Do you see the volumes of 997's made eventually hindering a price rebound?
Just means you'll get to enjoy yours longer, should you buy one.

I suspect it will come down to the options it's spec'd with how soon yours rebounds. If I were to make a default guess it would be the NZ new C2S manuals that lead the pack. Find one not in silver with a sunroof delete, even better.

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Old 04-14-2014, 04:41 PM
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On a nominal price basis I expect the Turbo 3.6 to be the first car that I will ever make money on but it's only taken 13 years and that is a very rare motor vehicle to begin with. Sales in the US and UK are closing in on NZD 200,000 but NZ saw one languish at NZD 120,000 for six months.

To appreciate in value, a car has to have emotional appeal AND a buyer pool with money. I don't see that happening with the 996, 997 models in NZ. Heck, the 996 Turbo is a very capable machine and it's still depreciating after 13 years.

Buy what you want to drive and accept that it will cost you money. Just hope it isn't big money with maintenance as well as depreciation.
Old 04-14-2014, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by John McM
On a nominal price basis I expect the Turbo 3.6 to be the first car that I will ever make money on but it's only taken 13 years and that is a very rare motor vehicle to begin with. Sales in the US and UK are closing in on NZD 200,000 but NZ saw one languish at NZD 120,000 for six months. To appreciate in value, a car has to have emotional appeal AND a buyer pool with money. I don't see that happening with the 996, 997 models in NZ. Heck, the 996 Turbo is a very capable machine and it's still depreciating after 13 years. Buy what you want to drive and accept that it will cost you money. Just hope it isn't big money with maintenance as well as depreciation.
Good advice. Buy a "go car not a show car" and enjoy what it was built for, a great driving sports car. And then drive it. Lots.
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Hanna
Good advice. Buy a "go car not a show car" and enjoy what it was built for, a great driving sports car. And then drive it. Lots.
Doug, the Turbo 3.6 won't have its value affected by another 5,000km so is a starter for a trip around the South Island next year. I imagine it would be one of the few in the world to put any mileage on. Luckily Herman is there for the longer term as well. Absolutely Go Cars not Show cars.
Old 04-14-2014, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Hanna
Good advice. Buy a "go car not a show car" and enjoy what it was built for, a great driving sports car. And then drive it. Lots.
Spot on Doug. I think I added up the other day that I have put over 100K km on my collective Porsche sports cars (no Cayenne included). very enjoyable KM they have been too I might add.

John. As you cant really affect the residuals on the 3.6T much you should be driving that thing as much as you can before you sell it. SI trip would be a starter.


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