O2GO

^^^^ nice theme there.

John, I'd love yo do some cruising alongside the 3.6t. She might need a shakedown/wakeup trip or two over the next year? :-)

peterC2S

Ditto that. I've had both and they are completely different cars with different purpose for owning.

A sorted 997 is a relative bargain but you're right, production numbers will mean they are never truly rare.

A sound manual 993 is an appreciating classic. You'll want to drive it but at some point its investment status may well stop you using it 'every day.'

Comes down to whether you are wanting an occasional car or a daily driver.

Macca

Agree. The one step further piece which is becoming prevalent now in the UK and US is that if you own a 993 or 964 you will not be wanting to take these on the track or Targa in a few years time either if you are concerned about $$$ and condition etc. Probably take quite a little while for this to catch up in NZ luckily - currently 964 is track day value choice IMO.

John McM

Yes, clearing the logic in my head as it makes no price difference whether it is 105,000km or 125,000km. Only problem with the car is each time I drive it I fall in love again. The character is quite different to the NA 964 it runs on a wave of torque, it's not a revy engine.

Only thing holding me back right now is the strut. Trying to source the right tools to do this in my garage.

Luke944

True, true. All very good points. Thanks for all the advice. Certainly looks like I've come to the right place. My friends call me a Porsche geek so you guys are surely the Professors!

Time for a bit of planning out of what sort of garage make up I want for the next few years.

kiwi 911

Yes agreed with Peter too.

We all sing from the same book as through the school of pcar life experiences, we have all come to the same conclusion.

The first thing you need to ask yourself is how the car will be used:

1) Daily
2) Track
3) Sunday Driver

As there are different answers. The 997 is the best answer for all 3, the 993 the best (maybe) for a Sunday driver.

You can't get hung up on depreciation/resale otherwise you will never use the car and we are the wrong crowd to hang out with (you need to introduce yourself to the garage queen/concourse boys) Just buy the best car you can, that comes with an inch thick of the previous owners bills.

It also has to be an emotional thing. I could have purchased a 997, but the 993 was an itch that needed scratching. I will move to anther itch some day, but could still easily own a 997. In Pete's case he went the Cayman S route, and Chris the 997 route. No right or wrong answer - just what makes you happy.

kiwi 911

That was a great day - we need to do another SI tour.Maybe not a track one, but it would nice to drive Cromwell again.

SIWT (SI wine or with wives tour??)

Ridgeline911

The only other thing I'd add is that I've noticed that a large group of PCar owners like to tinker, modify, hotrod or simply maintain their cars. 74-89 G-model 911s all share parts, so if thats your thing. The earlier 911s i.e. 74-89 have a much larger/easier to get hold of parts list. That certainly was on my radar when choosing the right car for me.

The right 911 is there, you just need to work what will make you happy.
ps. Track it, no matter which way you go

peterC2S

I'm definitely in for round 2 and it wouldn't bother me if we didn't do the tracks next time round. Happy to get my track fix at HD and the NITT

kiwi 911

For those of you in the Porsche Club, just a heads up that the Driver Training day application form should be coming out very shortly. If you don't receive within the week - please contact me.

Peter, John, Doug et. al. - I was going to get Jen to have a go this year, you should approach 'Domestic Mgmt' and see if they want to have a go too.

Maxem

It will be interesting to see the price gap between a pre DFI and DFI engined 997 as time goes on.

nzskater

Great read over the recent posts. Best bet is get the car that is affordable, drivable and makes you feel good every time you get in it. Mine just reached the 100,000km mark. I'm sure it has resulted in significant devaluation but I'm not looking into it in detail. I'd rather be out driving it. I'd love to have an '81+ 911 SC as a project/outlet but the 997 is fine for now.

John McM

Interest is building. Need to work on some dates now. Doug already has a great route planned.

peterC2S

Good point - no idea as to the relative volumes produced but on trademe is guess that pre DFI outnumber post by > 10 to 1?

Macca

The one 997 model excluding GT3 I believe will not depreciate as fast as the others and will perhaps remain very sought after is the GTS. That car I belive one day will be a future classic and perhaps the only non GT3 997 that will achieve that. Very few sold new in NZ and even less in manual so if you ever get the chance to buy one of these at a fair price very much suggest it will be a good investment...