Any Rennlisters from New Zealand?
...collateral damage is always a sign of a good time
03-07-2016, 05:24 AM
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...1045584089.htm
This is listed as a 2010, carjam confirms 2010 however the lobster wheels and rear tail lights suggest its a Gen 1 car.
I thought gen 2 997s started in 2009?
This is listed as a 2010, carjam confirms 2010 however the lobster wheels and rear tail lights suggest its a Gen 1 car.
I thought gen 2 997s started in 2009?
03-07-2016, 06:29 AM
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...1045584089.htm
This is listed as a 2010, carjam confirms 2010 however the lobster wheels and rear tail lights suggest its a Gen 1 car. I thought gen 2 997s started in 2009?
This is listed as a 2010, carjam confirms 2010 however the lobster wheels and rear tail lights suggest its a Gen 1 car. I thought gen 2 997s started in 2009?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...1041075766.htm
03-07-2016, 05:08 PM
Three Wheelin'
Maybe it was slow to sell off the lot, so built earlier but first registered in 2010? But I found myself strangely drawn to the Mazda he was selling actually. Can't think why:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...1041075766.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...1041075766.htm
She's going to wear that handgun in the face holding it like that!
03-07-2016, 06:08 PM
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...1045584089.htm
This is listed as a 2010, carjam confirms 2010 however the lobster wheels and rear tail lights suggest its a Gen 1 car.
I thought gen 2 997s started in 2009?
This is listed as a 2010, carjam confirms 2010 however the lobster wheels and rear tail lights suggest its a Gen 1 car.
I thought gen 2 997s started in 2009?
03-07-2016, 11:56 PM
03-08-2016, 02:38 AM
Burning Brakes
03-08-2016, 01:03 PM
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A photo for those that are not on Facebook. Looking forward to the numbers increasing in Franz.
That gen 1 997 Carrera is too much, getting into Turbo money!
That gen 1 997 Carrera is too much, getting into Turbo money!
03-08-2016, 04:26 PM
03-08-2016, 04:34 PM
Respekt between rivals - Porsche acknowledges BMW for their centenary of car production:
"The future presents us with great challenges. We face them with sheer driving pleasure. Porsche bows to 100 moving years of automobile history and wholeheartedly congratulates BMW on this jubilee."
"The future presents us with great challenges. We face them with sheer driving pleasure. Porsche bows to 100 moving years of automobile history and wholeheartedly congratulates BMW on this jubilee."
03-09-2016, 03:50 AM
Three Wheelin'
This got posted to my community FB group. There's a lot of pissed locals calling for the drivers head
03-09-2016, 03:52 AM
Three Wheelin'
a few more as they tuck back in
03-09-2016, 05:27 AM
Where to start? Bad road markings, bad judgement call on the safety margin for the pass. Ironically though, if the driver had started their pass at the end of the double yellows instead, everyone might have been much worse off. And if that 4WD was half a second earlier around that corner, the passing driver may well have chosen to brake and pull back in behind the other cars. Half a second later and the closing distance at pull in would've doubled, making the pass look a lot less dangerous than it does with the 50 odd meter gap. I suspect it is a pass they regretted heavily at the time, and instantly realised they should have waited it out instead.
Without excusing it, but just looking at the process, it looks like they probably knew the road, knew that a passing zone was imminent and swung out early over the end of the yellows to see past the cars in front to check for opposing traffic and give themselves more time to make a pass. Once out there, presumably they went to full acceleration then obviously had to make a quick go/no go call on spotting the 4WD a moment later. Without seeing the video to get an idea of the relative speeds of the vehicles it's hard to pass comment on that moment's decision, other than noting that a delayed call is always the most dangerous call to make.
What is obvious from the stills however is that the passing car and the oncoming 4WD averaged similar speeds from the time that they saw each other.
I say this because there are about 23 white stripes between them on that last screenshot in the first post, with that shorter of the 3 tree shadows being at the midpoint, around 12 stripes ahead of each of them. In the last two photos, where the passing driver pulls back in, that exact same position on the road is still exactly halfway between them.
Assuming that the passer was accelerating throughout the manouevre (advisable once the 'go' call had already been made) and the 4WD was holding speed or maybe slowing on closing, this suggests that either the two cars in front were travelling extremely slowly, and/or the Porsche driver didn't accelerate fully, and/or that the 4WD came around the corner at a high speed. Similarly comparing distances travelled between the rearmost of the other cars and the passing car, it looks like the passer only averaged 10-15% more speed than that other car during the last two thirds of the pass. Likely the driver wasn't carrying any extra speed on swinging out to check and perhaps hadn't kicked/changed down, making for a fairly lazy (and more dangerous) pass. Here's hoping they weren't somehow putting the speed limit above safety at that point.
Analysis and conjecture aside, I suspect the passing driver remains ashamed of that move. I also suspect it was an aberration rather than a habit, else they'd likely have taken themselves and probably someone else to the big highway in the sky some time ago already.
Will let those without sin cast the stones though. Had someone critique my driving once. They'd just swerved through the opposing lane at a poorly-sighted urban T-junction to park facing the wrong way into the intersection while stopping to buy their milk at the dairy I walked into a little later (after parking on the proper side of the road after the intersection and walking back), so can't say I gave their viewpoint as much credence as they might have hoped.
Without excusing it, but just looking at the process, it looks like they probably knew the road, knew that a passing zone was imminent and swung out early over the end of the yellows to see past the cars in front to check for opposing traffic and give themselves more time to make a pass. Once out there, presumably they went to full acceleration then obviously had to make a quick go/no go call on spotting the 4WD a moment later. Without seeing the video to get an idea of the relative speeds of the vehicles it's hard to pass comment on that moment's decision, other than noting that a delayed call is always the most dangerous call to make.
What is obvious from the stills however is that the passing car and the oncoming 4WD averaged similar speeds from the time that they saw each other.
I say this because there are about 23 white stripes between them on that last screenshot in the first post, with that shorter of the 3 tree shadows being at the midpoint, around 12 stripes ahead of each of them. In the last two photos, where the passing driver pulls back in, that exact same position on the road is still exactly halfway between them.
Assuming that the passer was accelerating throughout the manouevre (advisable once the 'go' call had already been made) and the 4WD was holding speed or maybe slowing on closing, this suggests that either the two cars in front were travelling extremely slowly, and/or the Porsche driver didn't accelerate fully, and/or that the 4WD came around the corner at a high speed. Similarly comparing distances travelled between the rearmost of the other cars and the passing car, it looks like the passer only averaged 10-15% more speed than that other car during the last two thirds of the pass. Likely the driver wasn't carrying any extra speed on swinging out to check and perhaps hadn't kicked/changed down, making for a fairly lazy (and more dangerous) pass. Here's hoping they weren't somehow putting the speed limit above safety at that point.
Analysis and conjecture aside, I suspect the passing driver remains ashamed of that move. I also suspect it was an aberration rather than a habit, else they'd likely have taken themselves and probably someone else to the big highway in the sky some time ago already.
Will let those without sin cast the stones though. Had someone critique my driving once. They'd just swerved through the opposing lane at a poorly-sighted urban T-junction to park facing the wrong way into the intersection while stopping to buy their milk at the dairy I walked into a little later (after parking on the proper side of the road after the intersection and walking back), so can't say I gave their viewpoint as much credence as they might have hoped.
Last edited by 996tnz; 03-09-2016 at 06:32 AM.
03-09-2016, 05:59 AM
Actually, even after the initial 'go' decision, it looks like the option to pull in behind the leading car was still open too when the 4WD came into the Porsche driver's view. Wouldn't have made them popular either but with a 25 odd meter gap, it was probably the safer option at that instant?