PORSCHEJAYHAWK

This sent me into a wormhole that lead to Stuttcars.com how would one know what they have?

Diesel (Turbo 3.0) 176kW 3.0V6 Audi
Diesel (Turbo 3.0) 180kW 3.0V6 Audi
Diesel S (Turbo 4.1) 4.1V8 Audi

https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-models/cayenne/958/

Sword_of_the_Spirit

Regarding the 1st/2nd half, I registered and saw what the compensation would entail. It looks like its around $9500. In your experience (or anyone here for that matter), would that indicate the prior owners have not received compensation? I figured it would save a call in the morning if you knew. In addition, if I do opt for the fix, I assume I receive the contingent $500 each month till a fix or no fix is issued.

Thanks again

Spyerx

If it’s showing 9500 the previous owner never registered. Bonus!

RS-America

Assume a 958 diesel buy-back becomes reality.
If we want to keep our 958s what would be available for service and parts?
I have not been able to validate the claim that auto manufacturers are required by federal law to have parts available for any models they sold for the period of 10 years. If this is true, the next consideration is if it would apply to a car that had a buy back even though you did not participate?

BenCD

For any of those who may not have received any of the Bosch payout yet, I just got off the phone
with a Bosch representative and another batch of mailings/checks is going out this week.

stronbl

Good to know ... thanks as I'm still waiting too.

BenCD

You're welcome.

I was wondering as I know of another who had gone through their junk mail and had found the check torn in half in their garbage as it had gotten mixed in with the junk-mail. As the checks are only good for 90 days, I'd rather find out if it was mailed or not than risk losing out on $750.

I had found that my check had not been mailed out yet and to repeat, another batch of checks is on the way out this week. $750 on the way, yee-haw!

At least it was very easy to call the Bosch-line, get in touch with a person and have them look up the status of the payment.

tgavem

yes, fraud shall be punished but the extra pollutant, lets put in perspective, North Dakota oil producers flare/burn 350million cubic feet of gas per day. This is only ND oil and gas production, there is production in other states too.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=26632

The VW computer fix will make a real impact.

PJ Cayenne

Cool article. When you put the incremental emissions in proportion to other pollution sources, it is a drop in the ocean. This whole thing should have been resolved with a fine, grandfather all TDIs for life, and a suspension of selling non-compliant cars. The environmental damage of either scrapping or fixing all these cars is going to far outweigh just letting them run to the end of their economic life.

gnat

Some of us already said as much in the "discussions" early on in this thread

Is what they are trying to accomplish the right thing? I think so. Are the attack the wrong source at this time (in relation to making an actual difference)? Absolutely. It is equally absolute that VW played some dirty pool and needed to be smacked around. This is, I believe, a case of "does the punishment fit the crime?" though.

skiahh

$500/month is only for a max of 3 months and then only if VW requests extra time to get a fix approved.

Note, if CARB or EPA delays, there's no $500. And there may be reasons the court would grant VW an extention, too, that didn't trigger the $500.

So don't put that $500 in the bank.

WhipE350

I remember reading about this. All I could think was wow, it sure seems they having nothing to lose by waiting. They can keep going back to the court and pleading that they thought they had a fix and the EPA kept rejecting it. And even if they had to pay the three months I think it goes back to the court. I'm guessing eventually the judge will have seen enough and force a buy back. Unless I missed it it seemed like there was no end to this unless the Judge comes back in 2018 and puts and end to it.

skiahh

Oh, I don't know... $500 for ~67,000 vehicles is $33,500,000. Each month. For 3 months, that's just over $100 million. I think they have a lot to lose. And it doesn't go back to the court, it goes to owners.

And if they don't get a fix approved after the 90 days, it goes into buyback, so after paying out the $100 million, they're now buying back the vehicles at a cost of 3-5 billion dollars, depending on the average cost per vehicle.

The longer it takes, the more it costs so dragging it out isn't in VW's interest here.

stronbl

^^^^ Agree.

And remember the reason we are where we are (i.e. no immediate buy-back option like Gen 1 3.0L) is that both VW and EPA/CARB/PSC indicated to the court that a fix was quite possible, perhaps even probable and that VW should be given the time to make it happen. I seriously doubt the court will rubber stamp "I need more time please" unless the path to an approved emissions compliant repair is truly insight. Just my humble opinion.

visitador

On a different subject matter, I need to bring the CD for a smog test in order to renew the registration here in CA. Kind of wasting my money, no? It is cheating anyway, so what's the point?