stronbl

When I had my CD registered in CA, got a smog check requirement in 2016 for registration renewal. Vehicle is MY 2013 but first registered in 2012, so 4 years on the diesel. I do not recall having to smog it prior to 2016 but my memory is not too clear on that point (of course as we all know it would pass just fine since it is jus an OBD II test). It's now registered in TX and they [presently] do not do a diesel emission check for registration, only a safety inspection.

JWLindsey

We have had to smog one of our 2013 CD's once already in CA and just got the notice for the other one today. Must be diesel related as it looks like gassers get a six year break until they have to be tested. With that said, the test is a joke as they don't do much other than look under the hood for any obvious hacks, goose the throttle for a subjective "smoke test", and then check if the OBD system is working. No dyno, no sniffer, and more revenue for the state. Goofy. We'll see if I run into any trouble with the scandal afoot but I smogged my older CD post news break and the tech didn't say anything about it.

JRoach

If the reason we (those in Calif) have to our CD's checked more often is because of the VW mess did the compensation include the added cost for those checks?

JWLindsey

I don't think we're on any special schedule with the CD's as it seems to be the same inspection schedule that I have for my Dodge Cummins diesel but it's a 2006 so who knows why we didn't get the standard 6 year exemption that seems to be the case for the gassers.

solrac6262

still waiting for e-mail, letter or info.
I did the registration about 3-4 weeks ago, any info would be much appreciated it or need to keep waiting

visitador

Is this thread too big to be moved to the new sub forum?

gnat

Sent a request last night after I saw the sub forum had been created. Safe to say this thread has no 955/957 content

Jay Wellwood

Agreed - hope to see it moved over to the new sub-thread.

Jay Wellwood

Let's say for the sake of argument that the settlement is signed off in ~2 weeks from now.

Porsche dealers then re-flash the ECU and certify the results on the 2015/2016 Cayennes that have been held in inventory pending resolution.

Will it be that a sudden glut of CDs on the market will depress prices - and given that the cars are 1-2 (soon to be 2-3) model years old and essentially brand new, how will the pricing model materialize?

This could be a very interesting market - especially for buyers.

visitador

I doubt so by the way the 2015 VW diesels are being released. Prospective buyers have to inquire to a dealership to see if they are expecting any new arrivals. Looks to me VW is not flooding at all but doing a trickle down to build new interest in the diesels

chsu74

How are 2015 CDs are being released by PCNA? The 2015 CDs being traded today are all lease returns. It is the unsold 2015 left on lots and 2016 model year selling end of 2015 that are part of the stop sale.

visitador

The prior question was whether Porsche is going to flood the market with unsold "fixed" cars once the fix is approved. He wants a good deal, I guess.

My answer is no, given how VW is dealing with the newly approved fixed 2015 cars. I should have clarified it is the 2.0 cars. VW is not flooding the market with the newly fixed 2.0 fixed cars and I doubt Porsche will do so in the event the 3.0 fix is approved

sclemmons

I tried to buy one from my dealer and they had a nice CD with no miles that the salesman told me he would let me sign a contract for with a deposit. I had driven his demo Cayenne Diesels but the no miles car was an upgrade. He called later to say that their cars were likely going back to Europe because Porsche did not want to put pressure on the used market. I got that story in February. It may have changed by now but I don't think so.

Jay Wellwood

I had seized upon a low mile 2014 model only to find it had been sold the day before. A little disappointed to say the least. This led to further discussion with the GM one of the local Porsche dealers over the last few days. While they cannot sell the 2015/2016 models yet, he did say that the day is near.

They have a stable of ~30 CDs waiting to be unleashed once the sale ban is lifted. The thing to keep in the back of your mind is that these are essentially NOS vehicles. From a banks perspective they will not likely loan the new value - so the market will (I believe) adjust accordingly. I seriously doubt that the demand is that high to not impact the invoiced price. The GM indicated that he expected the price to become very reasonable - we will see.

And yes, I want a good deal - who doesn't?

pieter97

I have been following the market on an almost daily bases, the 2015 CD's that come available (lease returns mostly) get scooped up fast and at relatively high prices.
I have access to Mannheim auctions, and there have been a handful 2015 CDs on the auction block since last summer.
I mostly see 2013-2014 CD's with 60k miles on Mannheim, they go in the high 30k to high $40k for low mileage (2014 CD / 20k miles)
Porsche is keeping their cards very close to their chest when it comes to information about releasing the current stock of new cars. I am surprised there is no more information that is leaked out: that's often a good marketing strategy to get a feeding frenzy when it happens. The fact that this has not happened is an indication to me that they might be taken back to Europe.