Diesel Cayenne and VW emission issue
07-24-2017, 11:24 AM
#3902
07-24-2017, 12:14 PM
#3903
Rennlist Member
Yes. I am sure, if required, the engineers can find a way to add an extra tank somewhere, kind of like the old cars in which you twist a valve to get to the emergency fuel tank. It would be a cool feature that we can show to others (and here if I switch this ****, more refined pee is injected)
07-24-2017, 01:15 PM
#3904
My experience and what I've seen reported by others is that you get about 12k out of the 5 gallons.
Non crazy people like myself tend to get their AdBlue topped off at their OCI.
Given those two things, the Audi and VW owners might get a bit upset with an increased usage if there isn't a larger tank added since they have a 10k OCI, but unless they do something crazy like 1g = 1k then we really wouldn't notice with our 5k interval.
While the others might complain about "unscheduled" AdBlue refills, us Porsche owners have a complaint against a larger tank as it will impact the weight distribution. Such a change (depending on how much extra fluid we are talking about) could have a measurable effect on how the vehicle handles. And why buy a Porsche if you don't care about how it handles?
Non crazy people like myself tend to get their AdBlue topped off at their OCI.
Given those two things, the Audi and VW owners might get a bit upset with an increased usage if there isn't a larger tank added since they have a 10k OCI, but unless they do something crazy like 1g = 1k then we really wouldn't notice with our 5k interval.
While the others might complain about "unscheduled" AdBlue refills, us Porsche owners have a complaint against a larger tank as it will impact the weight distribution. Such a change (depending on how much extra fluid we are talking about) could have a measurable effect on how the vehicle handles. And why buy a Porsche if you don't care about how it handles?
07-24-2017, 01:25 PM
#3905
Rennlist Member
While the others might complain about "unscheduled" AdBlue refills, us Porsche owners have a complaint against a larger tank as it will impact the weight distribution. Such a change (depending on how much extra fluid we are talking about) could have a measurable effect on how the vehicle handles. And why buy a Porsche if you don't care about how it handles?
07-24-2017, 01:58 PM
#3906
Instructor
looks like this is even bigger than we thought.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertels...o#7f3963de7ce8
it also looks like just a bigger adblue tank and spraying more of it could be the cure. article says they went with a small tank and turned the spray off to save 80 euros per car.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertels...o#7f3963de7ce8
it also looks like just a bigger adblue tank and spraying more of it could be the cure. article says they went with a small tank and turned the spray off to save 80 euros per car.
07-24-2017, 02:03 PM
#3907
Rennlist Member
Since DEF weighs ~9#/gallon, I don't think the 45 pounds, or .7% weight addition, will impact balance, performance or handling. 
I still wonder why we have the 5K interval. Once the 100K us up, I'm going to plan to go to the 10K interval, if oil testing warrants it.
I still wonder why we have the 5K interval. Once the 100K us up, I'm going to plan to go to the 10K interval, if oil testing warrants it.
07-24-2017, 03:46 PM
#3908
It may be subtle to most, but if you are in tune with how the vehicle handles in extreme (e.g. emergency or track situations) then you'll notice the difference.
I still wonder why we have the 5K interval. Once the 100K us up, I'm going to plan to go to the 10K interval, if oil testing warrants it.
07-24-2017, 04:20 PM
#3909
Three Wheelin'
I went 7500 interval on the leased cayenne. since I own this one, and since I started doing it myself I go 5000 on the current one. I go to the dealership for the 20k/40k, etc.
07-24-2017, 08:59 PM
#3911
My CD has used 2.5 gallons of AdBlue per 5k miles for six OCIs.
We had a tech talk last year by the guy who runs Evergreen Turbos and from what he sees M1 can't get beyond 5k miles before impacting turbo life. I'm fine with the 5k OCI.
We had a tech talk last year by the guy who runs Evergreen Turbos and from what he sees M1 can't get beyond 5k miles before impacting turbo life. I'm fine with the 5k OCI.
07-24-2017, 09:55 PM
#3912
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Do any Canadians on this forum have any idea what's going with a Canadian settlement? Zero discussion of this issue on the Canada sub forum, and I've seen nothing in the press. Any ideas?
07-25-2017, 06:04 PM
#3914
Me too:
Originally Posted by email
According to our records, you own or lease a Volkswagen, Audi, or Porsche Generation Two Eligible Vehicle. Under the 3.0L Class Action Settlement Agreement, you may be entitled to a Class Bridge Warranty providing coverage and terms mirroring the coverage provided by your new vehicle limited warranty.
If the new vehicle limited warranty on your Generation Two Eligible Vehicle has expired, Volkswagen will extend the terms of that warranty for covered repairs performed by a Volkswagen, Audi or Porsche authorized dealer based on vehicle conditions that arose after January 31, 2017 or the expiration of your new vehicle limited warranty. The Class Bridge warranty will expire on the date on which an Emissions Compliant Repair for your vehicle is approved or disapproved by the Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board.
Contact your authorized dealer to determine whether your vehicle is eligible for the Class Bridge Warranty. In order to qualify for coverage, you must repair your vehicle at an authorized Volkswagen, Audi, or Porsche dealership. If you have opted out of the 3.0L Class Action Settlement Agreement, you are not entitled to the Class Bridge Warranty.
For any questions or to learn more about the Class Bridge Warranty please visit www.VWCourtSettlement.com or call 1-844-98-CLAIM.
If the new vehicle limited warranty on your Generation Two Eligible Vehicle has expired, Volkswagen will extend the terms of that warranty for covered repairs performed by a Volkswagen, Audi or Porsche authorized dealer based on vehicle conditions that arose after January 31, 2017 or the expiration of your new vehicle limited warranty. The Class Bridge warranty will expire on the date on which an Emissions Compliant Repair for your vehicle is approved or disapproved by the Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board.
Contact your authorized dealer to determine whether your vehicle is eligible for the Class Bridge Warranty. In order to qualify for coverage, you must repair your vehicle at an authorized Volkswagen, Audi, or Porsche dealership. If you have opted out of the 3.0L Class Action Settlement Agreement, you are not entitled to the Class Bridge Warranty.
For any questions or to learn more about the Class Bridge Warranty please visit www.VWCourtSettlement.com or call 1-844-98-CLAIM.
07-25-2017, 06:09 PM
#3915
RL Community Team
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Originally Posted by skiahh
Since DEF weighs ~9#/gallon, I don't think the 45 pounds, or .7% weight addition, will impact balance, performance or handling.
I still wonder why we have the 5K interval. Once the 100K us up, I'm going to plan to go to the 10K interval, if oil testing warrants it.
I still wonder why we have the 5K interval. Once the 100K us up, I'm going to plan to go to the 10K interval, if oil testing warrants it.
Was the limit.