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Old 09-28-2021, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Sold for $214k including fees thus way surpassing the 2k mile .2 GT3 on Pcarmarket. Madness! Who is this Snaveed guy? He bids like crazy on so many auctions. Is he a dealer and/or someone trying to drive up and corner the market? I never see him resell the cars he has bought. Is he a collector, but doubt it.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...che-911-gt3-8/
Originally Posted by Burren
What. The. Hell...
Yup... my sentiments exactly. Your car, my car and Kevin's white .2's are all now each worth $253,398 by my calculation. This is pure madness.
Old 09-28-2021, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
I am friends with Darrell (owner of Karpark). I will try to find out more about this “Snaveed” as I know Darrell is curious.
I am pretty sure I know who he is, and I think he's entitled to privacy. There are guys here that own a lot of cars and this guy is no different except he's not active on the forum. The question at hand is he a dealer and the answer is no. A guy with pretty good taste and a fatter wallet than me. And most people. And if he wants something he's going to try hard to get it.

On the other hand, he buys up all 997 GT3 and RS cars.

By doing so he can sell each one for:


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Old 09-28-2021, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Upscale Audio
I am pretty sure I know who he is, and I think he's entitled to privacy. There are guys here that own a lot of cars and this guy is no different except he's not active on the forum. The question at hand is he a dealer and the answer is no. A guy with pretty good taste and a fatter wallet than me. And most people. And if he wants something he's going to try hard to get it.

On the other hand, he buys up all 997 GT3 and RS cars.

By doing so he can sell each one for:

Hahah that's a good one. I do love his r8 collection though!
Old 09-28-2021, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by idk_alex
For real... I thought these cars were about driving and thats the allure versus other generations?

I would like to find the person that enjoys driving their car more now that its worth 1.X whatever they paid for it.
Originally Posted by samwise
I'm now expecting a glut of 997.2 GT3 to come on the market soon...

Alex, you already know its getting to that point for me.
Driving these cars is special, but the more they go up in value the less incentive I have to drive it.
The ratio of fun:worried creeps in and suddenly you just look at it in the garage & that new rock chip hurts just a bit more than it should.
Old 09-28-2021, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Upscale Audio
I am pretty sure I know who he is, and I think he's entitled to privacy. There are guys here that own a lot of cars and this guy is no different except he's not active on the forum. The question at hand is he a dealer and the answer is no. A guy with pretty good taste and a fatter wallet than me. And most people. And if he wants something he's going to try hard to get it.

On the other hand, he buys up all 997 GT3 and RS cars.

By doing so he can sell each one for:

If he's buying them for himself, then that's quite a strange collections he is amassing. Multiple examples of the same model, with none being particularly special examples. Three mid mileage R8s, three mid mileage 997 TTs, 3 RSs, etc. I would think someone with that bank roll would go for the cream of the crop within each model range. But hey, that's just me.
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Old 09-28-2021, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Finally put up an asking price for this Carrara White/Ruby Stone (originally had Guards Red contrast). Asking price is $250k OBO. Car has 18k miles, PCCB, full leather, and no sports chrono.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154626817371?hash=item240079fd5b:gwgAAOSwJpRhUEVX

VIN: WP0AC2A94BS783125
What's the story with the Ryan Fried Ruby Stone car? Was it a flood/damaged car? It looks like the entire interior was replaced given it originally had guards red contrast stitching, leather steering wheel and the cupholder carbon trim is 1 piece vs. 3.
Old 09-28-2021, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ryantt
What's the story with the Ryan Fried Ruby Stone car? Was it a flood/damaged car? It looks like the entire interior was replaced given it originally had guards red contrast stitching, leather steering wheel and the cupholder carbon trim is 1 piece vs. 3.
Carfax report doesn’t signify any issues and the car overall looks clean. Car just has cosmetic mods. This car doesn’t have the optional cup holders for the .2 RS so just has the carbon fiber strip with RS 3.8 written on it. Cup holders didn’t come as standard with the .2 RS, but the option was free.

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Old 09-28-2021, 10:34 PM
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I live down the street from Karpark, never been there. Might need an introduction to Darrell.

Originally Posted by RapidGT
I am friends with Darrell (owner of Karpark). I will try to find out more about this “Snaveed” as I know Darrell is curious.
Old 09-28-2021, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lukasss
Alex, you already know its getting to that point for me.
Driving these cars is special, but the more they go up in value the less incentive I have to drive it.
The ratio of fun:worried creeps in and suddenly you just look at it in the garage & that new rock chip hurts just a bit more than it should.
The opposite should be true for me when I think about it. I can drive it all I want and no matter what it won't cost me a dime. Even if I crash it! (Assuming I'm insured)
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Old 09-28-2021, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ryantt
What's the story with the Ryan Fried Ruby Stone car? Was it a flood/damaged car? It looks like the entire interior was replaced given it originally had guards red contrast stitching, leather steering wheel and the cupholder carbon trim is 1 piece vs. 3.
I live close to RFMC and have seen the car but haven’t studied it.
the Rubystone can easily be changed back to Guards.
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The silver .2 was "bought" by All Things Porsche. The car is now listed on his site. More likely a market manipulation tactic than an actual sale. If you review higher sale auctions on PCar market, you see a lot of bidding between the same users on low mileage Porsche GT and TTs. The users are dealers and they are not actual sales - just transferring the cars between dealers, and booking a high sale price to push the market up. They also actively bid up other auctions on the site to push final prices up. This is likely why PCAR Market has no transparency on researching bidders' history, because the patterns would be too easy to spot.

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Old 09-29-2021, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jmerk2
The silver .2 was "bought" by All Things Porsche. The car is now listed on his site. More likely a market manipulation tactic than an actual sale. If you review higher sale auctions on PCar market, you see a lot of bidding between the same users on low mileage Porsche GT and TTs. The users are dealers and they are not actual sales - just transferring the cars between dealers, and booking a high sale price to push the market up. They also actively bid other auctions on the site to push final prices up. This is likely why PCAR Market has no transparency on researching bidders' history, because the patterns would be too easy to spot.
Interesting theory. Sounds feasible.
Old 09-29-2021, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lukasss
Alex, you already know its getting to that point for me.
Driving these cars is special, but the more they go up in value the less incentive I have to drive it.
The ratio of fun:worried creeps in and suddenly you just look at it in the garage & that new rock chip hurts just a bit more than it should.
getting mine corrected in 3 weeks w/full xpel wrap… I figure if it’s made of gold I should prob put a condom on it.

I do have one question for the channel… I have on the shelf a guards LSD, new coolant lines, engine mounts etc would the collectors pay less if I pinned the lines and updated the LSD etc vs bone stock?

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Old 09-29-2021, 12:49 AM
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Two other data points. The black .1 with 41k miles for sale at Porsche Colorado Springs is already gone. They did not even have time to post pics, they just did a quick video. It was was not pristine cosmetically and they were asking $115k.

And Doug seems to have sold his .1 atlas grey with 17k miles. He was asking $130k.
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Originally Posted by jmerk2
The silver .2 was "bought" by All Things Porsche. The car is now listed on his site. More likely a market manipulation tactic than an actual sale. If you review higher sale auctions on PCar market, you see a lot of bidding between the same users on low mileage Porsche GT and TTs. The users are dealers and they are not actual sales - just transferring the cars between dealers, and booking a high sale price to push the market up. They also actively bid up other auctions on the site to push final prices up. This is likely why PCAR Market has no transparency on researching bidders' history, because the patterns would be too easy to spot.
They would have to be in cahoots with Sky Motor Cars, the seller of the 2k mile silver car. And if they were trying to push the market up, they didn't do a good job since they bought it for $187k w/fees and now they are trying to sell it for $220k from what I heard. Or more.

But I do believe they were bidding up their own auctions. If I shook their hand I'd have to wash it after first checking to make sure I had my watch.

Pcarmarket, if they are an "honest broker", should ban All Things Porsche.
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