The 997 GT3/RS Cars For Sale Thread...
11-08-2021, 08:24 PM
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11-08-2021, 08:51 PM
Are we talking about the same car? I'm referring to https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...che-911-gt3-5/
The car has white door pulls and center console, neither of which were factory on this particular car according to the build sheet. The car also has leather covered side panels on the center stack which were never a stand-alone option and only part of the full leather package, which this car did not come with. Nothing wrong with any of this, just pointing out some deviations from how this car left the factory.
The car has white door pulls and center console, neither of which were factory on this particular car according to the build sheet. The car also has leather covered side panels on the center stack which were never a stand-alone option and only part of the full leather package, which this car did not come with. Nothing wrong with any of this, just pointing out some deviations from how this car left the factory.
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11-09-2021, 11:44 AM
Why do Canadian cars bring less money than US cars when they are essentially the same? I never really understood this and never found a good answer. Anyone have an explanation?
11-09-2021, 11:46 AM
11-09-2021, 11:49 AM
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Other issues include a greater likelihood of corrosion or rust on the undercarriage, although we can admit this is less likely on cars of this caliber that are put away for winter.
Also worth noting, CarFax won't show as many records, nor with the same level of detail, on Canadian market cars. That can be a turn off as well.
Finally, there is the likely logistical hurdle of crossing the border, particularly if you require help with that.
11-09-2021, 12:08 PM
Question for everyone here. How many of you are actually looking to purchase a 997 GT3 and how many (like me) are owners just interested in the market for these cars, but not currently looking to buy? From those that are actually in the market to buy, how many are looking for a "deal" and how many are looking for their perfect spec/mileage/color car, with price being a secondary concern?
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11-09-2021, 12:08 PM
As mentioned, the simple fact that duties would likely be due upon importation to the USA could be worth 3% of the price paid for the car.
Other issues include a greater likelihood of corrosion or rust on the undercarriage, although we can admit this is less likely on cars of this caliber that are put away for winter.
Also worth noting, CarFax won't show as many records, nor with the same level of detail, on Canadian market cars. That can be a turn off as well.
Finally, there is the likely logistical hurdle of crossing the border, particularly if you require help with that.
Other issues include a greater likelihood of corrosion or rust on the undercarriage, although we can admit this is less likely on cars of this caliber that are put away for winter.
Also worth noting, CarFax won't show as many records, nor with the same level of detail, on Canadian market cars. That can be a turn off as well.
Finally, there is the likely logistical hurdle of crossing the border, particularly if you require help with that.
The perception is essentially self-perpetuating at this point, so not only do buyers want to avoid the hassles and cost of import (not really a big deal - a customs broker will do all the work anyways), but - in my opinion more importantly - buyers will want to avoid the same hassle when the time comes for them to sell... Explaining the Canadian car "differences", dealing with buyers that expect discounts, etc. Sometimes it's just easier to pay more money and buy a US car.
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11-09-2021, 12:16 PM
That all makes sense. I can see the hassle of buying a car in Canada and doing the import. But even Canadian cars that are already in the US sell at a discount. If the car is already imported it seems like a good way to get a small discount on an equivalent car.
I already have a GT3 so I'm not in the market. I was just mostly curious. Thanks for the input.
I already have a GT3 so I'm not in the market. I was just mostly curious. Thanks for the input.
11-09-2021, 12:22 PM
Question for everyone here. How many of you are actually looking to purchase a 997 GT3 and how many (like me) are owners just interested in the market for these cars, but not currently looking to buy? From those that are actually in the market to buy, how many are looking for a "deal" and how many are looking for their perfect spec/mileage/color car, with price being a secondary concern?
With the market having gone in the direction it has, the pricing has gotten less interesting to me because the financials take a lot of the enjoyment out of these cars. I’m not someone with millions of dollars, so I’m absolutely trying to minimize depreciation by not buying a new AMG that’s going to lose 50% of It’s value, but I’m also not looking to double my money in the next 10 years by bubble wrapping my 25k mile GT3 which will likely never appreciate that much.
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11-09-2021, 01:44 PM
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I have an employee that moved here from Canada and a lady hit his SUV totaling it. Because it had not been transferred to California yet, they said it could NOT be totaled, and they gave him a check and left him the car. He then got it fixed cheap at my buddy's downtown body shop where they barely speak English for cheap, and made out like a bandit.
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11-09-2021, 01:52 PM
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Canadian specs definitely played a role. I also believe the seller made a mistake listing this car on Cars and Bids.
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11-09-2021, 03:02 PM
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11-09-2021, 03:31 PM
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I bought my GT3RS from Canada with Doug's help 7 years ago. It is true that US buyers don't want to deal with importing a car, the one I bought sat on the market for 8 months! The truth is, if you have the import paperwork in order, it is not difficult at all. Doug took care of that for me. I did some sleuthing and discovered the original US title, so I didn't even have to pay duty to re-import it. Drove it across the border myself. Best car purchase I've ever made!
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11-09-2021, 03:44 PM
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Carfax has acquired the Canadian equivalent (Carproof) and should have equivalent data on Canadian cars now.
The perception is essentially self-perpetuating at this point, so not only do buyers want to avoid the hassles and cost of import (not really a big deal - a customs broker will do all the work anyways), but - in my opinion more importantly - buyers will want to avoid the same hassle when the time comes for them to sell... Explaining the Canadian car "differences", dealing with buyers that expect discounts, etc. Sometimes it's just easier to pay more money and buy a US car.
The perception is essentially self-perpetuating at this point, so not only do buyers want to avoid the hassles and cost of import (not really a big deal - a customs broker will do all the work anyways), but - in my opinion more importantly - buyers will want to avoid the same hassle when the time comes for them to sell... Explaining the Canadian car "differences", dealing with buyers that expect discounts, etc. Sometimes it's just easier to pay more money and buy a US car.
11-09-2021, 03:45 PM
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Question for everyone here. How many of you are actually looking to purchase a 997 GT3 and how many (like me) are owners just interested in the market for these cars, but not currently looking to buy? From those that are actually in the market to buy, how many are looking for a "deal" and how many are looking for their perfect spec/mileage/color car, with price being a secondary concern?