Prices Keep Drifting Up
#5131
Three Wheelin'
Sorry that was a misunderstanding and once I re-read you replied. Impact...., who really knows to be honest? I've seen a bunch of over rev reports from reading through the forums, but nothing ever indicated anyone had inherent problems even extending into range 2 outside of disastrous misshifts. Pretty sure mine has some in range 1, possibly even range 2 from when my short shift kit disassembled itself going into 3rd.
#5132
Welcome! Trust me...I know. :-)
Sure..not debating their "every day" value and agree they should not been seen as "doom and gloom" but in their extremes perspective buyers should evaluate.
I think we agree.
2) over rev reports are to be taken with a grain of salt and not the doom and gloom that people read into them.
In any industry where lots of money is involved (like my other collectibles industry) people tend take a small bit of into and always think the worst and it shapes the market.
In any industry where lots of money is involved (like my other collectibles industry) people tend take a small bit of into and always think the worst and it shapes the market.
I think we agree.
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VintageCollector (01-30-2022)
#5133
Rennlist Member
This car could have already been discussed; I'v had my head in the passenger footwell of my targa for the past 2 effing days and have not kept pace with the thread.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-4-31/
Sold for a very tidy sum. Apparently knowledgeable folks commented directly that the car had hit a raccoon. Seller stated that paint thickness readings indicate original paint.
Uhhhh, no. Raccoons are large animals. Big fat furry buggers. Hit a raccoon, buy a new bumper cover (for starters). Much better to assume a new, properly painted front bumper on the car, rather than original paint.
Not knocking the car in this case but I am putting the seller on my personal "beware: hijinks ahead!" watchlist.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-4-31/
Sold for a very tidy sum. Apparently knowledgeable folks commented directly that the car had hit a raccoon. Seller stated that paint thickness readings indicate original paint.
Uhhhh, no. Raccoons are large animals. Big fat furry buggers. Hit a raccoon, buy a new bumper cover (for starters). Much better to assume a new, properly painted front bumper on the car, rather than original paint.
Not knocking the car in this case but I am putting the seller on my personal "beware: hijinks ahead!" watchlist.
#5134
This car could have already been discussed; I'v had my head in the passenger footwell of my targa for the past 2 effing days and have not kept pace with the thread.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-4-31/
Sold for a very tidy sum. Apparently knowledgeable folks commented directly that the car had hit a raccoon. Seller stated that paint thickness readings indicate original paint.
Uhhhh, no. Raccoons are large animals. Big fat furry buggers. Hit a raccoon, buy a new bumper cover (for starters). Much better to assume a new, properly painted front bumper on the car, rather than original paint.
Not knocking the car in this case but I am putting the seller on my personal "beware: hijinks ahead!" watchlist.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-4-31/
Sold for a very tidy sum. Apparently knowledgeable folks commented directly that the car had hit a raccoon. Seller stated that paint thickness readings indicate original paint.
Uhhhh, no. Raccoons are large animals. Big fat furry buggers. Hit a raccoon, buy a new bumper cover (for starters). Much better to assume a new, properly painted front bumper on the car, rather than original paint.
Not knocking the car in this case but I am putting the seller on my personal "beware: hijinks ahead!" watchlist.
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#5135
#5136
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Huh,, not so sure about that bold statement...
As an OEM to the VAG group and technical partner at the highest level of Porsche engine development, including the VAG groups Bugatti Veyron; there is no better choice that Schrick for your Porsche. They offer the worlds finest performance camshafts from premium blanks with complete in house R&N and manufacture from end-to-end.
We offer a variety of Schrick cams for a range of applications, these particular being the '996 Cup' replacements for the Carerra and GT3.
Talk to one of our engine consultants to guide you into the proper camshaft for your application.
Set for Fixed Timing: 996 GT3 CUP
- Intake/Left: 300* - 108 timing, 12mm lift
- Intake/Right: 300* - 108 timing, 12mm lift
- Exhaust/Left: 292* - 110 timing, 11mm lift
- Exhaust/Right: 292* - 110 timing, 11mm lift
Set for Variable Cam Timing: 996 GT3 CUP- variable cam timing
- Intake/Left: 300* - VARIABLE 122-94 timing, 12mm lift
- Intake/Right: 300* - VARIABLE 122-94 timing, 12mm lift
- Exhaust/Left: 292* - 110 timing, 11mm lift, 11mm lift
- Exhaust/Right: 292* - 110 timing, 11mm lift, 11mm lift
Notes:
To be used with Flat Tappets
As an OEM to the VAG group and technical partner at the highest level of Porsche engine development, including the VAG groups Bugatti Veyron; there is no better choice that Schrick for your Porsche. They offer the worlds finest performance camshafts from premium blanks with complete in house R&N and manufacture from end-to-end.
We offer a variety of Schrick cams for a range of applications, these particular being the '996 Cup' replacements for the Carerra and GT3.
Talk to one of our engine consultants to guide you into the proper camshaft for your application.
Set for Fixed Timing: 996 GT3 CUP
- Intake/Left: 300* - 108 timing, 12mm lift
- Intake/Right: 300* - 108 timing, 12mm lift
- Exhaust/Left: 292* - 110 timing, 11mm lift
- Exhaust/Right: 292* - 110 timing, 11mm lift
Set for Variable Cam Timing: 996 GT3 CUP- variable cam timing
- Intake/Left: 300* - VARIABLE 122-94 timing, 12mm lift
- Intake/Right: 300* - VARIABLE 122-94 timing, 12mm lift
- Exhaust/Left: 292* - 110 timing, 11mm lift, 11mm lift
- Exhaust/Right: 292* - 110 timing, 11mm lift, 11mm lift
Notes:
To be used with Flat Tappets
I've read from multiple internal Porsche sources that regardless of marketing, Variocam was implemented primarily to increase MPG for tightening US and Euro enviro regs
Makes sense cause the Cup & factory race cars (not subject to EPA) don't use Variocam at all
IE if Variocam net increased performance Porsche Motorsports would be using it
Just what I read, this is not an opinion ugh
Makes sense cause the Cup & factory race cars (not subject to EPA) don't use Variocam at all
IE if Variocam net increased performance Porsche Motorsports would be using it
Just what I read, this is not an opinion ugh
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#5138
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To used car sellers bumpers don't count as original paint and the ad said the bumpers were repainted. Apparently in Europe that doesn't count either. I'm with them. Bumpers are plastic and meant to be bumped and painted. Metal body panels only apply for me unless it's a super low mile Concours car.
#5139
Rennlist Member
Not just variable valve timing and lift (and/duration), special intake manifolds (different internal valves that change runner length and alter resonance frequencies) and exhaust systems are also designed to extract the most torque across a wide range of RPM so that engine can develop more ‘area under the curve,’ (HP) which will make these cars faster overall, even if peak HP or torque stays the same. And being more streetable at the same time. And remember, some efficiency gains can be traded for power as well. If an engine is slightly more efficient, it could actually make more power.
So variable valve timing isn’t just about fuel efficiency, it’s about many things.
So variable valve timing isn’t just about fuel efficiency, it’s about many things.
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VintageCollector (01-30-2022)
#5140
Drifting
Good to know about the TT solenoids; I already knew it was far simpler on MKII but hadn’t looked at the Mezger’s
And what you’re describing about the power curve without Variocam is I believe why the other forum here abandoned the experiment; the car became too unpredictable on track, as I recall from their conversations
My interest a while back was in unplugging Vario on an MKI car with one faulty solenoid, that was misfiring badly. But I but the bullet and replaced it
Thx
And what you’re describing about the power curve without Variocam is I believe why the other forum here abandoned the experiment; the car became too unpredictable on track, as I recall from their conversations
My interest a while back was in unplugging Vario on an MKI car with one faulty solenoid, that was misfiring badly. But I but the bullet and replaced it
Thx
Unplugging the Vario-cam would cause fault codes for non-function. Yes would save wear on the solenoids, same as just not driving the car/starting the engine.
Unplugging the Vario -cam on 996TT would loose 150hp in mid-range while gaining 120 on top end, and a net lose of 30hp ,and end up feeling like the old 930 where the turbo hit was like a sledgehammer, nothing down low. a little in the middle, and then a big hit..I would never consider going back to that...
The solenoids and be easily replaced on the 996TT ...
Unplugging the Vario -cam on 996TT would loose 150hp in mid-range while gaining 120 on top end, and a net lose of 30hp ,and end up feeling like the old 930 where the turbo hit was like a sledgehammer, nothing down low. a little in the middle, and then a big hit..I would never consider going back to that...
The solenoids and be easily replaced on the 996TT ...
#5141
Unplugging the Vario-cam would cause fault codes for non-function. Yes would save wear on the solenoids, same as just not driving the car/starting the engine.
Unplugging the Vario -cam on 996TT would loose 150hp in mid-range while gaining 120 on top end, and a net lose of 30hp ,and end up feeling like the old 930 where the turbo hit was like a sledgehammer, nothing down low. a little in the middle, and then a big hit..I would never consider going back to that...
The solenoids and be easily replaced on the 996TT ...
Unplugging the Vario -cam on 996TT would loose 150hp in mid-range while gaining 120 on top end, and a net lose of 30hp ,and end up feeling like the old 930 where the turbo hit was like a sledgehammer, nothing down low. a little in the middle, and then a big hit..I would never consider going back to that...
The solenoids and be easily replaced on the 996TT ...
You step on it, and the thing takes off like a bat out of hell even when you're in a high gear at low RPM. 5th or 6th gear on the freeway? Floor it and the thing will accelerate from 2000 RPM faster than anything short of a true super car.
At first, I thought it was just that they managed to put small turbos into the car to limit turbo lag but now I realize that the variable valve timing has a lot to do with the engine .'coming on the cam' early and THAT eliminates a lot of the Turbo lag.
I bought the car because a good friend of mine here encouraged me to and I'm glad I did. What a car.
#5142
Racer
Thanks! The purchase did go through! It is the second Porsche I have bought from a Rennlist member and the seller was great! The car exceeded expectations! And even at $10k more than the 996 I almost bought 4 years ago, I feel like I got a better deal today! I love the car and couldn't be happier! Aside from being my second choice of color, which I still love arena red, it is exactly how I would have ordered it from the factory! It is an early 99 (3/98) with LSD, Sport Seats, and M030, as well as a rebuilt engine to 3.6L with LN Nickies, IMS, and plenty of other upgrades! It'll be my daily for now, but after driving a few hundred miles in it I almost wish I didn't have my 951 track car! This is my first 911, and it is incredible!
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#5143
Three Wheelin'
Be careful
High mile '99 missing the 408's and ambers. Still a $20k car or maybe a $25'er?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...1-carrera-254/
No reserve nice looking 4S;
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-51/
Nice driver mileage OBM;
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...1-carrera-175/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...1-carrera-254/
No reserve nice looking 4S;
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-51/
Nice driver mileage OBM;
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...1-carrera-175/
#5144
Rennlist Member
Thanks! The purchase did go through! It is the second Porsche I have bought from a Rennlist member and the seller was great! The car exceeded expectations! And even at $10k more than the 996 I almost bought 4 years ago, I feel like I got a better deal today! I love the car and couldn't be happier! Aside from being my second choice of color, which I still love arena red, it is exactly how I would have ordered it from the factory! It is an early 99 (3/98) with LSD, Sport Seats, and M030, as well as a rebuilt engine to 3.6L with LN Nickies, IMS, and plenty of other upgrades! It'll be my daily for now, but after driving a few hundred miles in it I almost wish I didn't have my 951 track car! This is my first 911, and it is incredible!
!
!
How about a few pictures of your 951. Got a couple of buddies that still track them. Incredible Porsches that still after 35 years are durable and fast. Got one buddy that club races the S2 which is set-up beautifully. In my avatar picture you can see his red front end.
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Type65 (01-31-2022)
#5145
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Gonna hijack my own thread temporarily and cross post something from the 997 forum because I'm curious what people here think of this, especially those with advanced Porsche technical knowledge. There has been a rumor/urban legend for sometime that Porsche engineers built in an undisclosed trick that allows 997.2 4s PDK cars to seamlessly convert from AWD to RWD by simply engaging the handbrake 1 click in certain modes. Though discussed and ridiculed often, nobody had posted anything definitive until this was posted a few days ago. Just curious what people think of this since I know there is ample discussion of AWD to RWD conversions in this and other forums.
(posted by @Rfjohnson )
Default 997.2 C4S to 2WD using cockpit controls2011 C4S PDK w/Sport Chrono
AWD to 2WD (rear) using cockpit controls
PDK gear shift in Auto versus Manual setting
I was able to get the front wheels disengaged (2WD rear) using the handbrake up one click (Video 1:42):
However, it took 12 configurations to find it.
For anyone who wants to sit through 4:51 of all twelve tests:
Sport Plus: ON
Stability Mgmt (PSM): OFF
Handbrake up one click
(Left PASM alone - in this case car turns it ON with Sport Plus)
(posted by @Rfjohnson )
Default 997.2 C4S to 2WD using cockpit controls2011 C4S PDK w/Sport Chrono
AWD to 2WD (rear) using cockpit controls
PDK gear shift in Auto versus Manual setting
I was able to get the front wheels disengaged (2WD rear) using the handbrake up one click (Video 1:42):
However, it took 12 configurations to find it.
For anyone who wants to sit through 4:51 of all twelve tests:
Sport Plus: ON
Stability Mgmt (PSM): OFF
Handbrake up one click
(Left PASM alone - in this case car turns it ON with Sport Plus)
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