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Old 01-15-2022, 05:32 PM
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Once these valvetrains hit an equilibrium with the wear pad thickness they will run like that forever if maintained well

Total hocus pokus by greedy mechanics to change them out before the CEL, IMO





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lol my bank 2 cam dev has been at 6 for almost 30k miles. No issues, hasn’t budged.
Old 01-15-2022, 05:38 PM
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“Either”???

You do realize 997 (.1) GT3’s ALL have sunroofs correct??

Just what you need at Dunlop Chicane on Circuit de la Sarthe: 60 LBs of electric moonroof motor screwed in directly above your helmet

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BaT comments played a role, I think.

Man, I would love to own either of those two beautiful cars. Great deal on that 997, still just out of reach.
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Old 01-15-2022, 05:46 PM
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Hi, I have a Amber 03/98 621106 31,000 miles, it’s completely original, besides normal ware and tear maintenance, rubber parts mainly the only thing I’ve done is a ashtray delete. The question, is there any advantage leaving it completely original and if anything is replaced, use original Porsche parts

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Old 01-15-2022, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
Once these valvetrains hit an equilibrium with the wear pad thickness they will run like that forever if maintained well

Total hocus pokus by greedy mechanics to change them out before the CEL, IMO
huh?? I had like 11 degrees of cam deviation and no CEL, but my motor sounded like a rusty chainsaw. It run smooth as butter now that is fixed
Old 01-15-2022, 06:11 PM
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Mac there is more money if it stays stock for future sale but if your going to use it put what ever you like just keep everything original with you
Old 01-15-2022, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mccahey
Hi, I have a Amber 03/98 621106 31,000 miles, it’s completely original, besides normal ware and tear maintenance, rubber parts mainly the only thing I’ve done is a ashtray delete. The question, is there any advantage leaving it completely original and if anything is replaced, use original Porsche parts

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Maybe? No way to tell how the market will go but it certainly will drop and rise to some degree. That being said a clean, lower mileage stock example will certainly fetch more than one with mods BUT its your car and if you want to do stuff with it then do it. I think the reality is, even with the values up, unless you bought at the absolute rock bottom price you are better off investing money elsewhere if you want a return. Moral of the story, its your car, its not a museum piece so do what you want with it!
Old 01-15-2022, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
Mother freaking crazy 996 GT’s now pulling bigger numbers than 997 GT’s apples apples

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-42/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-42/

(and the 996 had twice the miles!!!!!!!)

History has now been made
Originally Posted by aaronjb_ME
There's a 996 GT2 up on the PCA Market for a cool $190k as well.
To my eyes, the 996 is much prettier. 997 looks bloated


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Old 01-15-2022, 07:42 PM
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they look very, very similar. in those two pictures the 996 looks better to me, but only because of the OEM wheels.
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Old 01-15-2022, 07:59 PM
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????? CEL triggers at +\- 9 degrees cam deviation

If you had 11 degrees and no CEL something was seriously wrong: absolutely yes you should have corrected that situation



Originally Posted by Leeroy89
huh?? I had like 11 degrees of cam deviation and no CEL, but my motor sounded like a rusty chainsaw. It run smooth as butter now that is fixed

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Old 01-15-2022, 08:05 PM
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997 GT has a mandatory sunroof

996 GT has no sunroof ✅

All I need to see




Originally Posted by pulpo
they look very, very similar. in those two pictures the 996 looks better to me, but only because of the OEM wheels.
Old 01-15-2022, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by motoo344
Maybe? No way to tell how the market will go but it certainly will drop and rise to some degree. That being said a clean, lower mileage stock example will certainly fetch more than one with mods BUT its your car and if you want to do stuff with it then do it. I think the reality is, even with the values up, unless you bought at the absolute rock bottom price you are better off investing money elsewhere if you want a return. Moral of the story, its your car, its not a museum piece so do what you want with it!
not sure I agree on the return aspect of your comments, seems everyone thinks 20+% returns are the norm in the stock market and a lesser degree real estate. How quickly people forget the yrs where making 10% was good and 15-20% fn great.. a few collectibles or soon to be, can add some diversification, which in my experience is welcomed.

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Old 01-15-2022, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Phiphe
not sure I agree on the return aspect of your comments, seems everyone thinks 20+% returns are the norm in the stock market and a lesser degree real estate. How quickly people forget the yrs where making 10% was good and 15-20% fn great.. a few collectibles or soon to be, can add some diversification, which in my experience is welcomed.
Yep. It's called recency bias.

Seems the stock market is suffering from a bad case of it right now, just like home prices in the mid 2000's, tech stocks during the dot.com bubble, Japanese stocks in the 80's. Yadayadayada.

A little diversification with non-correlated assets is always prudent.


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Originally Posted by pulpo
they look very, very similar. in those two pictures the 996 looks better to me, but only because of the OEM wheels.
Much prefer prefer the 996's shorter front overhang. The rake in the sideskirts gives it a more aggressive looking stance. And yes, the wheels are much nicer.

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Old 01-15-2022, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bash Hat
To my eyes, the 996 is much prettier. 997 looks bloated..
IMO 996 is prettier than the 997 in any iteration, inside and out. DFI 997 in dark color is nice from the rear, but that's only because of the 996 lineage.

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Originally Posted by Bash Hat
Much prefer prefer the 996's shorter front overhang. The rake in the sideskirts gives it a more aggressive looking stance. And yes, the wheels are much nicer.
true the side skirts are more aggressive. i think the front overhang difference is exaggerated by the angle of the photograph a little. I believe they are fairly close in dimension but overall the 996 definitely does look more aggressive
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