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Old 04-09-2021, 05:11 PM
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Because Yogi said he bought his car on eBay, I took a new look there. Haven't looked in years. But found some interesting asking prices on C4S. Wow, they are really high prices, is this just fishing or are these sellers hoping somebody will offer $10K less than the asking price? Below these examples are all 4S. There are other 996 listed that seem more reasonable, but 4 years ago the 4S had asking prices in the $25-$30K range , maybe $35K. Are these prices real or is this just eBay noise?

2002 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S : $59,995.00

2002 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 6 Speed Manual 2-Door Coupe : $52,950.00

2003 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 6 Speed Manual 2-Door Coupe : $49,950.00

2003 Porsche 911 4S Exclusive Package Power Kit Package Bose Xenon : $69,990.00

2002 Porsche 911 *Gemballa Edition* *Carrera 4S* *AWD* : $54,900.00

Old 04-09-2021, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 911Syncro
Because Yogi said he bought his car on eBay, I took a new look there. Haven't looked in years. But found some interesting asking prices on C4S. Wow, they are really high prices, is this just fishing or are these sellers hoping somebody will offer $10K less than the asking price? Below these examples are all 4S. There are other 996 listed that seem more reasonable, but 4 years ago the 4S had asking prices in the $25-$30K range , maybe $35K. Are these prices real or is this just eBay noise?

2002 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S : $59,995.00

2002 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 6 Speed Manual 2-Door Coupe : $52,950.00

2003 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 6 Speed Manual 2-Door Coupe : $49,950.00

2003 Porsche 911 4S Exclusive Package Power Kit Package Bose Xenon : $69,990.00

2002 Porsche 911 *Gemballa Edition* *Carrera 4S* *AWD* : $54,900.00
I'm telling you man! The CovidTax is real! I don't see these prices coming down much from these either. Now that the internal-combustion engine is going the way of the Dodo. Makes what I do more valuable I guess.
Old 04-09-2021, 05:41 PM
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You won’t be finding nice 4s model starting with a 2 anymore, or maybe even a 3 soon.
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Old 04-09-2021, 05:49 PM
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Yogi’s car would have been closer to $12K two years back.
Now $15K seems like a pretty good deal.
Prices have really jumped since I bought my 50K miles 996.2 back in 2017 for $20K.
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:06 PM
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I'll preface this by saying that the C4S is an amazing car and I've spent a good amount of time in one but I really don't understand why the prices are much higher on them than other variants. I read somewhere that it was the most produced 996 so there is plenty of them out there. I love the wider body and can appreciate the bigger brakes but I don't think those two would justify such a big premium. In some areas AWD is a plus but with so many people not even driving these cars in inclement weather it's not really a benefit. In my eyes at least, when I look at a 911 I want a rear driven sports car with light feeling steering and ability to row my own gears. LSD is a plus. I think the limited edition cars or those with an Aero package should be fetching those numbers but often they don't. Oh and the Targa needs more love too!
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:10 PM
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It's the wide body....It cost more when new vs narrow body and that margin still exists today. Look at 993 nb vs wide body, its a 2x factor minimum. The market likes what the market likes, can't fight it.
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:11 PM
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http://howtoporsche.com/911-series/9...r-and-version/
Old 04-09-2021, 06:15 PM
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Approximately 17k 4s coupes across 2002-2005, or 10% of total 996 manufactured. Less than 6k 4s cabs in total.
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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel
Yogi’s car would have been closer to $12K two years back.
Now $15K seems like a pretty good deal.
Prices have really jumped since I bought my 50K miles 996.2 back in 2017 for $20K.
Agreed. I think we’re near the bottom on these cars. I hope to step my way up to a wide body 996 or 997. In the meantime I’ll put some spacers on the wheels to give it a better stance.
Old 04-09-2021, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
It's the wide body....It cost more when new vs narrow body and that margin still exists today. Look at 993 nb vs wide body, its a 2x factor minimum. The market likes what the market likes, can't fight it.
If they had made a 996.1 wide body without the reflective strip and rear bumper vents... I think that would have been a really good looking car.
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
It's the wide body....It cost more when new vs narrow body and that margin still exists today. Look at 993 nb vs wide body, its a 2x factor minimum. The market likes what the market likes, can't fight it.
Widebody 993 might be 20-30% price premium, pretty similar to the 996.

Personally, I like the 996.2 in wide body. I think the turbo style headlights look best with the wide hips. I also love the simple bathtub shape of the 996.1 with its rounded headlights and narrow rear.
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Originally Posted by plpete84
I read somewhere that [the C4S] was the most produced 996 so there is plenty of them out there.
Yeah, pretty much. By this view only the "plain" C4 had a higher volume.




Here is a breakdown on the 996 production numbers (by year, by coupe/cab/etc.): 996 Production Numbers: Slicing and dicing


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Old 04-10-2021, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 911Syncro
Yeah, pretty much. By this view only the "plain" C4 had a higher volume.




Here is a breakdown on the 996 production numbers (by year, by coupe/cab/etc.): 996 Production Numbers: Slicing and dicing

You seem to be forgetting about the 87,430 C2 996 manufactured. C4S coupes represent only 10% of 996 manufactured, clearly not "the most produced".
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
You seem to be forgetting about the 87,430 C2 996 manufactured. C4S coupes represent only 10% of 996 manufactured, clearly not "the most produced".
And that could be why the c2 isn’t nearly as expensive as the others. Then again, that’s also why they are such great value.
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