911Syncro

I wanted to get more insight to the 996 production, using the data that is commonly around. There are sometimes discussions or questions about the future values, and the numbers will play a role. Here is what I see:


Note: Coupe = Total - Cabs - Targas
Not shown: Mk1 = 85,556. Mk2 = 89,608 (about equal)



Note: C4 = (All 4s) - C4S



The Excel sheet is attached for those who would like to dig in. The header row simply keys off of the row name (Modèle) so other totals can quickly be created.

A few of my observations ('cause it will hopefully cause the intended result: discussion).
- The ME and AE are likely good long term investments.
- Those two models and the C4S will stick out as "special" and always have a higher value. The Targa will probably not; those will be kinda like the early 911 Sportomatic.
- Of course Turbos will always be highly desirable, but a lot were produced so they will hardly be considered rare.
- Because of the very large number produced, on almost all of them, the condition of the car will be a much higher factor compared to rarity. So keep yours in excellent condition at all times.
- I wonder what caused the dip in 2000?
- I don't have the exact data, but believe I've read that for a first few years more Cabs were sold in the US than Coupes.
- If I were investing for the long term, my choice would be the GT3.

I searched a bit, but could not find any data about the US export quantities. If you know of a source, please let me know.

dporto

No C2 ???

billh1963

2000....dot.com bubble

DBJoe996

2000 - fire at the existing production plant, or something like that. Ask Jake.

Splitting Atoms

There is some interesting data in the "earliest cars" thread. I think the numbers you have in the bar chart are for model year. Apparently, the 14 1997 models were pre-production cars. The 1998s were built beginning in early fall (around October) 1997 and registered in Europe, most of them as 1998s through calendar year 1998. The rollout of the 1999 models in the US was in April 1998. My car was built in March 1998, titled in May 1998 in South Carolina as a 1999 model year. Since the production run of 1999 models started so early, that may account for the lower number of 2000 models. Dot Com bubble could have had something to do with it. The 2005 models would be the Turbo and C4S built in late 2004/early 2005. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Also, Europe kept proportionally more coupes than the US, resulting in cabs being a little more common over here than the coupes.

911Syncro

Good point, the previous chart treated C2 as "the rest". Here is an update, calculated as C2 = Total - (all the other categories). But there is where the slicing and dicing comes in, what is the definition of "C2", since perhaps the ME and AE are also labelled C2 ... or not?

Splitting Atoms

I added the totals and got 175,164 996s produced. 87,734 varieties including the millennium and 40av, but excluding the C2. This leaves 87,430 "regular" C2s.

professorman

Good analysis. I hope most of us here are not 'collectors' and are actually out enjoying this fine automobile.

keviha

I understood targa's were comparatively rare...and these stats seem to confirm. I don't necessarily expect that to translate into future collect-ability...especially not mine as I drive to enjoy it.

wildbilly32

Splitting Atoms:

This is the info normally accepted for MY2005 production:
728 4S Coupe
763 4S Cabs
201 Carrera Cab
276 GT3
122 Turbo
18 GT2
129 Targa
90 GT3 Cup
127 Turbo Cab
598 Turbo S
960 Turbo S Cab

dan_189

This is great data, thanks for sharing

Fracture

any *'s regarding the X51 cars, other than 40thAE ?

I remember seeing it being as about 1% of all production

Flat6 Innovations

The dip in 2000 came from many 2000 models being produced early, and then being sold as 1999 models to fill orders for first year cars.

dan_189

The data shows the cars platform not specific options so that data won't be as easy to find or compare by year.

longrowe

here are some numbers. Not in a fancy chart though.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ntQ/edit#gid=0