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Is there anybody here who can explain why the WLTP (current standard in EU) emission values don't really come down at all in the new GTS even though Porsche is enforcing the Lambda=1 principle throughout the RPM range? In my mind it should have a huge effect compared to the earlier now that the mix is not allowed to run rich at all.
This is really bugging me. Primarily because almost half of the price of a 911 in my region is coming from taxes and the amount of tax is derived straight from the vehicle's WLTP emission value but I would also like to understand why this entire effort "just for the sake of emissions" and then the values barely come down/remain the same.
Somebody pointed out this ledge and now I can’t un-see it. Looks like an underbite to me and the Porsche lettering seems to be integrated more poorly than before in the tail lights. Need to see it in person but to me the tails might be my least favorite design aspect with the update. Most other aspects I think will likely age well.
The new P-Ledge® creates an additional 37kg of downforce at 250kph.
Is there anybody here who can explain why the WLTP (current standard in EU) emission values don't really come down at all in the new GTS even though Porsche is enforcing the Lambda=1 principle throughout the RPM range? In my mind it should have a huge effect compared to the earlier now that the mix is not allowed to run rich at all.
This is really bugging me. Primarily because almost half of the price of a 911 in my region is coming from taxes and the amount of tax is derived straight from the vehicle's WLTP emission value but I would also like to understand why this entire effort "just for the sake of emissions" and then the values barely come down/remain the same.
Cheers.
I don't know about the WLP Cycle parameters, but the "All Bets are Off over 80% Throttle" has been a no-go zone on the EPA Cycle.
I had zero issue with it. It is definitely more tactile than a button that literally every manufacturer is using. Where is the creativity in that?
It is a bit gimmicky to have the fake key, but I’ve come to like it. It’s the first thing I touch after seated, and instantly differentiates the 911 from everything else. It may be stupid, but turning that “key”, listening to it **** off the neighbors during cold start (post cargraphic install) is one of my favorite aspects of the car.
Porsche’s explanation is that 911s in motorsports now use a push button to start (on the left of course), so this change is in keeping with modern racing heritage.
(Keep in mind, the real reason - not the myth - that Porsche had the start key on the left was to reduce the copper wiring in order to cost costs).
Nevertheless, I could have forgiven the push button.
However, the implementation is soooo bad. This is obviously a "tacked-on" part to fit into the existing hole in the lower dash, without redesigning the lower dash.
In the photo here, the two plastic trim pieces on the left and right of the start assembly are there to cover up the resulting gaps in the lower dash. Although there is a shadow under the start assembly, I bet a plastic "plug" piece now covers original semicircular hole for the twist-to-start toggle.
I know Porsche couldn’t redesign the whole car for a mid-model refresh, but the new technological changes have forced them to “tack-on” bits and pieces here or there in a Frankensteinish manner.
Yes, I agree with what you write. It looks horrible and cheap and the execution is extremely poor.
But what I mean with branding is that when you put the two pictures (other one with the "ignition key" and other one with the start/stop button) next to each other and show it to an audience that doesn't know which cars they are from, there's no way they can know that the generic start/stop button contraption is from a Porsche (it could be from any modern car!) but if they are into cars at all, the "ignition key" will immediately tell them it's from a Porsche (specifically a 911). Big difference. Porsche should have kept it there just for this reason.
I'm taking the long view on the "new" 992.2:
First: In another 23 years, my 992.1 will be the collectors version.
Second, In 2045 or thereabouts, Porsche will introduce a Nostalgia version of the 911 and it'll look remarkably like the 992.1.
Really wish it had EV only mode. Oh well, always The next model!
Something for Rennlist to look forward to for the 994.
I don't think the 994 will have a different drivetrain. Some slight refinements, lower weight battery. It won't have an EV range or be a PHEV because that would add too much weight. This is the powerplant going for a long time, if there is a 998 EV only car in 2035, they will be selling that to a different demographic willing to accept a pure EV sports car. At that point I think the car loses everything that a 911 is. If you want an EV sports car - Tesla or China will make one that essentially does the same thing at 1/3rd the price.
Porsche tends to carry over the drivetrain and motor from the .2 to the next generation .1. So the 994.1 will likely have the less buggy and more optimized versions of the 9A3. And the 994.2 will be the EV version of the 911 that we can talk about.
05-30-2024, 07:44 PM
