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Old 05-30-2024, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by slc4s

Somebody pointed out this ledge and now I can’t un-see it. Looks like an underbite to me and the Porsche lettering seems to be integrated more poorly than before in the tail lights. Need to see it in person but to me the tails might be my least favorite design aspect with the update. Most other aspects I think will likely age well.
They refer to this as a Pagoda. You can option it in Anthracite grey. The angle from the spoiler to the bumper has been changed to slope more gradually than the previous one. Not sure until I see it in person.
Old 05-30-2024, 12:21 PM
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With the complexity of the 9A3 drive train in the 992.2GTS, I will not be putting my potential loss of warranty on the line for any ECU tune. If anything, I will be shopping an extended warranty as opposed to a tune.
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Old 05-30-2024, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PSPorsche
Nevertheless, I could have forgiven the push button.

However, the implementation is soooo bad. This is obviously a "tacked-on" part to fit into the existing hole in the lower dash, without redesigning the lower dash
Same. I can live with the push button, but this looks totally thrown together. We should expect more of Porsche, this is beneath them.
Old 05-30-2024, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chance6
Where is the source of this information RE: ignition and timing? Is the fuel efficiency any better? Is the combustion efficiency any better? Engine have the same redline as previous 3.0? What is new compression ratio? You can adjust timing for better efficiency and actually improve power/torque.
Porsche is now Lambda 1 which pulls ignition timing under load to not damage engine. So, Lambda 1 means 3.6L 9A3 engine at 26 psi boost makes about same hp as a non-Lambda 1 3.0L 9A2 engine at 18.6 psi boost.
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Old 05-30-2024, 12:39 PM
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yup if only they made a slightly smaller, significantly lighter car with a manual and key switch start, and analog gauges at ~400hp that is easily tuned to ~440hp for approx $115K....oh wait...



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Old 05-30-2024, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PSPorsche
Porsche’s explanation is that 911s in motorsports now use a push button to start (on the left of course), so this change is in keeping with modern racing heritage.

(Keep in mind, the real reason - not the myth - that Porsche had the start key on the left was to reduce the copper wiring in order to cost costs).

Nevertheless, I could have forgiven the push button.

However, the implementation is soooo bad. This is obviously a "tacked-on" part to fit into the existing hole in the lower dash, without redesigning the lower dash.

In the photo here, the two plastic trim pieces on the left and right of the start assembly are there to cover up the resulting gaps in the lower dash. Although there is a shadow under the start assembly, I bet a plastic "plug" piece now covers original semicircular hole for the twist-to-start toggle.

I know Porsche couldn’t redesign the whole car for a mid-model refresh, but the new technological changes have forced them to “tack-on” bits and pieces here or there in a Frankensteinish manner.


It probably comes out of VAG parts bin, but I like it.

I prefer push button to the turning **** that I have connected with my knee-cap few times already

PS. Please don’t mock my driving position
Old 05-30-2024, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pivot
It probably comes out of VAG parts bin, but I like it.

I prefer push button to the turning **** that I have connected with my knee-cap few times already

PS. Please don’t mock my driving position
its 100% identical to new Panamera.


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Old 05-30-2024, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ksdaoski
its 100% identical to new Panamera.

That is not a good thing in my opinion.
Old 05-30-2024, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TUD
That is not a good thing in my opinion.
What if it could be wrapped in racetex?
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Old 05-30-2024, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TUD
That is not a good thing in my opinion.
Yeah not great


Old 05-30-2024, 01:56 PM
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The fake key was terrible, honestly.
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Old 05-30-2024, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by yellolab
yup if only they made a slightly smaller, significantly lighter car with a manual and key switch start, and analog gauges at ~400hp that is easily tuned to ~440hp for approx $115K....oh wait...
Agreed...getting a 992.1 "T" that is lighter with key switch start, manual trans and analog tach is the way to go...plus 420hp at the crank that easily tunes to just shy of 500hp!
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Old 05-30-2024, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Icegrill
What if it could be wrapped in racetex?

Larger fail.
Old 05-30-2024, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDude
The fake key was terrible, honestly.
I had zero issue with it. It is definitely more tactile than a button that literally every manufacturer is using. Where is the creativity in that?
Old 05-30-2024, 02:24 PM
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Has anybody noticed that they added more plastic between the Dash and infotainment center. Not regretting my 24 911 at all.

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