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Old 04-29-2024, 05:30 PM
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Update: the manual transmission will only be available on the GT3 and the turbo - not on the turbo s though. Also on the T but not 100% on this. This is as of now.

541bhp for the gts
Turbo (non s) is not a hybrid, like the base. Turbo is 2wd and available with manual






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Old 04-29-2024, 05:37 PM
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Yes that's what I read (might be the same source) - Turbo is not a full hybrid, Turbo S is.
Old 04-29-2024, 05:40 PM
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Manual option with the Turbo…Been a minute since we could configure with that as an option.
Old 04-29-2024, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
In this forum, perhaps.

But not in real life.

Exactly, and there are plenty of 992.1 CPO units available with little miles. Yes, dealers tend to asking a premium for them as they know what’s up… it is about to become very slim pickings for anything new once the 992.2 reveal occurs.

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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
Update: the manual transmission will only be available on the GT3 and the turbo - not on the turbo s though. Also on the T but not 100% on this. This is as of now.

541bhp for the gts
Turbo (non s) is not a hybrid, like the base. Turbo is 2wd and available with manual

Doubt we will see a T in the near future, more than likely towards the end of the 992.2 life-cycle. If at all…

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Old 04-29-2024, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TUD
Doubt we will see a T in the near future, more than likely towards the end of the 992.2 life-cycle. If at all…
I'm curious about this. If the base is PDK with 3.0 turbo, no hybrid, is there something that would prevent them from making a T version with a manual option? Emissions regs or carbon limits? Wouldn't they be able to shift base PDK units to T manual units for the same emissions/carbon footprint? The manual might get slightly less MPG but it seems if they actually do a non-hybrid base that they could do a manual T version if they so choose. A PDK only T would be an odd duck so I don't see that happening.
Old 04-29-2024, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 6sigma
I'm curious about this. If the base is PDK with 3.0 turbo, no hybrid, is there something that would prevent them from making a T version with a manual option? Emissions regs or carbon limits? Wouldn't they be able to shift base PDK units to T manual units for the same emissions/carbon footprint? The manual might get slightly less MPG but it seems if they actually do a non-hybrid base that they could do a manual T version if they so choose. A PDK only T would be an odd duck so I don't see that happening.

I believe the base engine will receive 48v mild hybridization so even if a a 2.2 T comes at a later date there might not be the availability of a manual. Pure speculation, but I could totally see it going this direction.
Old 04-29-2024, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
Turbo is 2wd and available with manual
This sounds interesting.
Old 04-29-2024, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
Turbo is 2wd and available with manual
There's going to be some very upset 911 992 Sport Classic owners out there if this true.
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Old 04-29-2024, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
There's going to be some very upset 911 992 Sport Classic owners out there if this true.
I would not bet on a 2wd manual Turbo. Are modern 991.1 and up Turbo owners clamoring for RWD?

The Sport Classic is detuned to accommodate the 7 speed manual’s torque limit, and the 6 speed limit is below that.

Highly skeptical Porsche would reengineer a manual when the take rate is so low (for the world, not just the US).
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Originally Posted by phefner
Manual option with the Turbo…Been a minute since we could configure with that as an option.
This would be wise marketing and should greatly boost sales of the TT model. Gives consumers clear choice and addresses two different demands.
Old 04-29-2024, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
There's going to be some very upset 911 992 Sport Classic owners out there if this true.
Agree, but would be a great swan song for turbo lovers before going hybrid.
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Old 04-29-2024, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
I would not bet on a 2wd manual Turbo. Are modern 991.1 and up Turbo owners clamoring for RWD?

The Sport Classic is detuned to accommodate the 7 speed manual’s torque limit, and the 6 speed limit is below that.

Highly skeptical Porsche would reengineer a manual when the take rate is so low (for the world, not just the US).
Per Jerry Ellis, M Engineering, the max torque limit for factory 992, 7 speed MT dry clutch system is 660 ft. Lbs. which is close to that of the standard (non-TTS version) of the PDK. He told me that in an e mail 2 weeks ago when inquiring about a Stage 2 tune for my MT 992. So, no “re-engineering” necessary for a TT.
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Seems to me the 911R giving way to the GT3T is a great business model: using limited production cars to test new markets. I find the idea of a 2WD Turbo manual interesting for two reasons: 1) it was highly desirable from the 930 through to the 997 Turbo and they are the Turbos that have held their values the best whereas 991 and 992 Turbo are possibly some of the highest depreciating 911s, and 2) because I and many others love the SC and would love to see a non limited edition of this car. Same goes for the Dakar with a cheaper full-run version also rumored to be in development.
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Old 04-29-2024, 07:48 PM
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Consider the weight reduction of a 2WD Turbo with MT model compared to weight of a 4WD TTS with PDK and hybrid equipment which will need a hp/tq bump to offset the weight. Smart move by Porsche if true (and I hope it is). Most exciting news in this whole thread, IMHO!

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Old 04-29-2024, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 6sigma
I'm curious about this. If the base is PDK with 3.0 turbo, no hybrid, is there something that would prevent them from making a T version with a manual option? Emissions regs or carbon limits? Wouldn't they be able to shift base PDK units to T manual units for the same emissions/carbon footprint? The manual might get slightly less MPG but it seems if they actually do a non-hybrid base that they could do a manual T version if they so choose. A PDK only T would be an odd duck so I don't see that happening.
I think they don't offer a 992.2 T initially (and for the first couple years) because the model was created to create interest/demand later in the model life cycle. Why offer everything (all models) at once ? This is what they did with the 991.2 T and 992.1 T. It makes sense. As the generation is getting stale, they create new demand for it by offering a more driver focussed option. Lots of early 992.2 adopters then sell their base or even S or GTS to get a T when finally available. Porsche sells more new cars this way. It's just a good marketing strategy for their product.


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