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Just got done watching the SavageGeese video. One of the better ones.
Question I have for us Track Rats. If Jorge was 100% at the start and close to 0 at the end of his 7:20 ish Nurburgring run, what would us mere mortals experience over a 25 minute HPDE? How do we then get the battery back to 100%?
And then repeat the session 1.5 hours later for another 25 minutes.
Just got done watching the SavageGeese video. One of the better ones.
Question I have for us Track Rats. If Jorge was 100% at the start and close to 0 at the end of his 7:20 ish Nurburgring run, what would us mere mortals experience over a 25 minute HPDE? How do we then get the battery back to 100%?
And then repeat the session 1.5 hours later for another 25 minutes.
Thoughts?
Just a guess, I figure there will be some new drive modes we will learn about in the driving reviews coming later, and I figure there will be different drive modes for max performance and max energy recovery. I believe thats how it works on the 296 hybrid if I'm not mistaken.
Watch the last couple minutes of this. I was naive enough to believe electrification wouldnt happen on the 911 for 10-15 plus more years.
I don't care if porsche did this to other models, testing technologies and short term fasion trends, but this, combined with the asinine Kia minivan styling updates, mass produced push buttons, everymans toyota digital dash, meaningless and unnecessary bumper restyling, and that totally crappy overly aggressive decklid looks like something Joe Dirt would install straight from China aftermarket, on his camero....screams we're out of touch at porsche in terms of our heritage and base and $$$ focused only.
wow, someone pissed in your wheaties this morning ??
Talks about the design elements comparing the 992.1 vs 992.2. I have to agree with what he says.
Yes, the pinched plastic lines on the front and rear bumpers do not make sense from a design perspective, because they do not connect to anything else on the car.
These lines to not have a sense of flow.
Very forced design, for the sake of change.
Porsche pulled ignition and timing, considerably, to ensure emissions are clean at all engine RPMs and throttle positions. In order to maintain power parity, they had to up the displacement and boost levels. To maintain power at high rpm, under high boost, they had to increase the size of the turbo substantially, especially since they also went from 2 turbos to 1. This meant massive turbo lag, which would be unacceptable. Hence, the electric motor between the compressor and turbine wheel. Without hybrid drive, the 3.6 turbo makes 478hp (+5 over the 992.1 GTS twin-turbo). The hybridization adds weight, so you need more power to maintain performance. Since it’s an updated generation, performance parity is not enough, so we add more power via electrification and the hybrid drive.
I think aftermarket tunes will take some time, since they now need to make real tunes by playing with timing, while maintaining safety. And for the hybrid drives, safety extends beyond simply tuning the IC parameters. As consumers, we need to be discerning and thoughtful, when evaluating what tune we put on our cars. Or we risk becoming test vehicles. It should be interesting to see the tuning world step up to the challenge.
Where is the source of this information RE: ignition and timing? Is the fuel efficiency any better? Is the combustion efficiency any better? Engine have the same redline as previous 3.0? What is new compression ratio? You can adjust timing for better efficiency and actually improve power/torque.
lolz. you aren't a pro racer driver on the Nurburgring. It has over 11kw continuous power from the turbo exhaust, plus the regen from engine braking. You're not going to deplete it on a public street in any meaningful sense. Put another way, even at 0% charge, you'd still have 11kw of energy available as a minimum. You'd never have less than 20% of the system power available even at 0% battery. The battery is just a buffer. While the emotor will provide 54hp, I suspect you'd only see that full amount on launches, and predominantly its used for torque fill and gear shifts, which requires significantly less energy than pushing a 3500# car.
the system is very similar to the artura and 296, and they don't have any issues like the silly fear mongering here. Sure sure, we'll see when folks actually get a hold of the cars etc etc. You're never going to be able to tell on a public street.
I don’t think anyone was commenting on street driving, just track. The nurburgring surely represents the extreme example of that, but what about a track with a shorter lap and slower top speeds? Can you do a 15 minute session and still have some juice? I think it is a legit question, not fear mongering.
Hot take. Why is it a zero sum game? The .1 can be good and the .2 can be good. The .1 can be someones next new car and the .2 can be someones as well.
Just got done watching the SavageGeese video. One of the better ones.
Question I have for us Track Rats. If Jorge was 100% at the start and close to 0 at the end of his 7:20 ish Nurburgring run, what would us mere mortals experience over a 25 minute HPDE? How do we then get the battery back to 100%?
And then repeat the session 1.5 hours later for another 25 minutes.
Thoughts?
I would think that you (or I) would be using the brakes a lot more than Jorge does so there would be more regeneration. Also, the Turbo generates electricity when it is not needed for boost. Even if you are totally out of battery the engine has roughly the same output as the current GTS.
Yes, the pinched plastic lines on the front and rear bumpers do not make sense from a design perspective, because they do not connect to anything else on the car.
These lines to not have a sense of flow.
Very forced design, for the sake of change.
It started on the 992.1 with the creases on the hood with no design reason.
05-29-2024, 06:48 PM
992.2
