I would encourage Porsche designers to take a look at the LC500 as a car that was clearly designed with passion and attention to detail. You really feel like you're getting your money's worth with that car and they give a middle finger to emissions by still using a NA V8. Could care less that it's slow bc, it sounds amazing.

 

much deeper and much nice imo

 

40hp comes from the battery, rest is engine/software tweaks, if nothing changed from the data I saw months ago, which had the horse power outputs of just released models 100% correct.

 

I'm assuming that Toyota has more flexibility on their engine choice because they sell so many incredibly efficient cars, that their overall average is still quite low.

 

I think the model to get will actually be the new Carrera 4. It looks like it will not be in the line-up for 2025, but I assume it would be available for 2026. The base Carrera now has larger brakes, the turbos from the 992.1 GTS, and the intercooler from the 992.1 Turbo. The new 992.2 base Carrera should be as tunable as the old 992.1 S car, probably close to 600hp. The Carrera 4 has the added benefit of the limited slip differential (LSP) for the rear wheels and AWD to better put down the high power, pull through corners, and drive in icy / snowy conditions. It will still not have the manual available though.

The new Carrera T (RWD only) would seem like it might be a better opinion still, but it has limited interior options and they removed some of the sound deadening.

The new Carrera S / 4S might still be the best choice, we will have to wait and see what they come out with.

The new Carrera GTS is very expensive now, has many undesirable (IMO) options like PDCC as standard, removed sound deading, making everything black, harsher ride, standard sports exhaust, and center lock wheels.

The rumored new RWD Turbo manual sounds very interesting, but it also sounds like it will be something that is in high demand and will difficult to get. Also since it is a Turbo it will be expensive. Still it might end up being the best choice. I really hope it will look good, I don't care for the active aero vents on the GTS.

 

I know. I really don't dislike the .2 update but now the back bumper looks like I need to walk up and shove it 1.5 inches towards the front of the car, expecting it to satisfyingly click in to place and suddenly look like it fits. I have way too much ADHD for that bumper treatment

 

Ummm you think the sports exhaust and center lock wheels are "undesirable"? lmao

 

Agreed. The 992.2 seems to be a stepping stone in Porsche’s balancing act between emissions requirements and the sports car we all love.

 

The LC500 is a beautiful car, with an interior that is almost bespoke-like in its quality and craftsmanship (Aston Martin would be proud).

That said, the LC500 sells as well heated blankets in the Sahara desert.

And if you're so enamored with the LC500, what are you still doing on Rennlist? You should be over there --> LC500 Forum.

The fact you are not says all we need to know about whether Porsche or Toyota is doing it right when it comes to luxury GT cars.

 

I can only hope the .2 haters stay the course. Maybe it will help for my allocation.

 

The LC500 doesn't sell well because most people are badge snobs and don't consider Lexus an aspirational/luxury or sporty brand. If the same exact car was made by Porsche and had a Porsche crest on it with the level of attention to detail and craftsman ship that Lexus gives, it would sell like hotcakes.

Anyways, yes I do have a 992.1 and my 992.2 is coming in October and when the 994 comes out, I'll probably be getting that too despite my complaints. Anyone who doesn't see a need to criticize Porsche is only doing themselves a disservice for their next Porsche purchase. I intend to try to hold Porsche to a higher standard which is what they've built their past reputation on.

 

Porsche interiors have always been overpriced vis-a-vis the MSRP of the car.

In any generation, whether air cooled 993 or water cooled "modern" 911s (991 or 992), the interiors are best described as functional, and at worst, Spartan.

The leather is fine, but nothing spectacular, the UX has never been cutting edge or user-friendly.

So to complain now about the 992.2 is a bit odd. This has been Porsche's MO for decades now.

 

Center lock wheels for a vehicle primarily used for public roads is an overkill as well as a potential PITA.

 

...I think the Porsche 992.1 interior is stunning particularly in one of the colored options and I love how customizable it is. My only complaint about the 992.2 (which I have an allocation for) is that the new start/stop button (which is the same one from the Panamera) is surprisingly cheap. BMW, Mercedes and pretty much every premium brand puts a lot of care and attention into the start button --- and Porsche used to as well. Also getting rid of the analog tach is a bit of a disappointment but not a dealbreaker though I wish there was a colored screen option on the lower trims. I'm just happy there's still an analog sportchrono meter.

I don't understand why it's so wrong to give Porsche constructive criticism --- especially from actual customers such as myself.

 

Which model 992.2 are you buying.