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That makes sense given the placement of the larger single intercooler.
Absolutely...
On a side note... I'm seeing a fair amount of electronics on top of the engine...Thats a super sensitive location especially for electronics that need cooling...Hmmm!
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Absolutely...
On a side note... I'm seeing a fair amount of electronics on top of the engine...Thats a super sensitive location especially for electronics that need cooling...Hmmm!
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Anyone know where the air filters are located now? Porsche moved the oil filter back to the bottom of the engine for access.
The 7 speed MT gear box is the same as the 7 speed PDK gear box. Both produced by ZF. . The clutch and hydraulics systems are different.
AFAIK all Porsche’s (sports car) transmissions are now produced by ZF.
Regardless, they’re clearly not the same thing. I recognize that they were designed for maximum parts sharing, but a dual clutch transmission is fundamentally different internally, and very few moving parts aside from the gears themselves can be shared. This isn’t the same as the old Ferrari F1 boxes that were just manuals with hydraulic actuators bolted on.
If there’s some other reason Porsche would cut almost 150 lb/ft of torque from their limited edition halo car, I’d love to hear it.
Would they really pair the hybrid system with the 3.0? My understanding of the press material was that the new base car gets the higher boost and permanently stoichiometric fuel ratio but none of the hybrid stuff. Maybe I misinterpreted but I took everything they’re saying to mean the 3.0 will be distinct from the hybrid system, which seems tightly integrated with the 3.6 architecture.
More likely to use the traction motor in the E-PDK...that's good for about 60hp....and should be good in a 3.0 with GTS 991.1 turbos for 530hp.
I'm seeing the T-hybrid E-Turbo is only good for about 5hp on the new 3.6!
If this is about the manual RWD turbo (non s) - it is coming
With full torque? That’s very exciting if so.
FWIW, I was talking about the Sport Classic a few posts ago; I think our lines got crossed somewhere along the way. This is the first I’ve heard of the manual turbo coming back, and that’s great news.
If this is about the manual RWD turbo (non s) - it is coming
Hope so. Marketing genius by Porsche if it happens. Why sell a$135k T with a MT when we can get you to buy a RWD TT with a MT and increase our sales price by $60k per car? If you want a MT, Porsche gonna make you pay out the nose for it. It is the Porsche way.
Would they really pair the hybrid system with the 3.0? My understanding of the press material was that the new base car gets the higher boost and permanently stoichiometric fuel ratio but none of the hybrid stuff. Maybe I misinterpreted but I took everything they’re saying to mean the 3.0 will be distinct from the hybrid system, which seems tightly integrated with the 3.6 architecture.
Ya…the 3.6 with dual electric assist (pdk, turbo) is quite a package…I don’t see them implementing that with 2 different engines.
Hope so. Marketing genius by Porsche if it happens. Why sell a$135k T with a MT when we can get you to buy a RWD TT with a MT and increase our sales price by $60k per car? If you want a MT, Porsche gonna make you pay out the nose for it. It is the Porsche way.
I’d bet they end up doing both. The manual transmission market of enthusiasts are the ones who are generally more invested and willing to pay more. So, Porsche is going to tie them to expensive models (Turbo/GT3) or more limited models near end of production (T).
This way they don’t have to mix parts during most of production, they force the enthusiast to take a much more expensive car if they want the manual and can afford it (Turbo/GT3), and they boost sales near end of production (T).
I’d bet they end up doing both. The manual transmission market of enthusiasts are the ones who are generally more invested and willing to pay more. So, Porsche is going to tie them to expensive models (Turbo/GT3) or more limited models near end of production (T).
This way they don’t have to mix parts during most of production, they force the enthusiast to take a much more expensive car if they want the manual and can afford it (Turbo/GT3), and they boost sales near end of production (T).
Hope so. If S also gets electric motor in PDK then no MT in S or GTS, unfortunately.
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I’d bet they end up doing both. The manual transmission market of enthusiasts are the ones who are generally more invested and willing to pay more. So, Porsche is going to tie them to expensive models (Turbo/GT3) or more limited models near end of production (T).
This way they don’t have to mix parts during most of production, they force the enthusiast to take a much more expensive car if they want the manual and can afford it (Turbo/GT3), and they boost sales near end of production (T).
Yes. But it’s also that if they do limited runs (e.g. <1500), I think they get some kind of free pass with regard to corporate emissions averages also.
And to @silversurfer6 ’s point, the RWD Turbo with a manual does appear to be coming. Porsche will not announce the special 911 products until 2026 to the best I can tell.
