Fullyield

Hope so. If S also gets electric motor in PDK then no MT in S or GTS, unfortunately.

Oileater

Yes. But it’s also that if they do limited runs (e.g. <1500), I think they get some kind of free pass with regard to corporate emissions averages also.

And to @silversurfer6 ’s point, the RWD Turbo with a manual does appear to be coming. Porsche will not announce the special 911 products until 2026 to the best I can tell.

PSPorsche

This s a good review. Worth watching. Covers some of the actual reasons behind the technology, and explains the layout of the technical components.

porschedood5000

Does anyone have an idea of when the new Targa 4 (base) will be coming!?

Pats911

My guess would be that they want to introduce the technology on the more expensive trim level while continuing to print money with the generally identical but now more expensive base car.

Also, out of curiosity, any details forthcoming on the Turbo cars beyond the RWD manual? Will they use the 3.6 liter as well?

Isn't it in the black box on top of the intercooler? That lines up with the intake side of the turbo (check the engine cutaways for more detail), as well as the blowoff valve venting back into the airbox to retain some of the charge.

ninjacoco

I wrote up the 992.2 for Cars.com (shameless plug, as we have a news and research side, too) and got a similar statement from our U.S.-side press contact. Basically, the 911s available now at the 992.2 launch are PDK-only, as the hybrid motor is too embedded within the Carrera GTS transmission for it to be feasible and the base Carrera is following the (disappointing!) precedent set by the no-manual-option base 992.1. BUT (I like big buts and I cannot lie) he also noted that the 911 lineup is all about variety along with the boilerplate "can't comment on future product."

So, I'm optimistic that three pedals will come back on the non-hybrid models as they fill out the lineup. I just hope at least a couple of those are regular variants and not super-expensive limited-edition models, too. I know the take rate is lower overall, but it's the transmission favored by a lot of Porsche's most loyal fans. You don't keep building your fanbase by limiting less cutting-edge options like that to rare models, IMHO.

PSPorsche

...And here is a professional design analysis. Pretty much corroborates the consensus of this forum....

m732sg

I guess we'll see what the next round of announcements holds but I won't need to be explaining to my wife why I need to trade my 992S quite yet.

CM991

One makes it a Porsche, another makes a generic car.

3-Pedals

In savagegeese video, there is the cut out of the engine. Man the new catalytic converter and the muffler is going to be very challenging to replace with an aftermarket option. They are just extremely bulky and closely integrated.

22992

This is a great video to watch if anyone hasn’t. Looking at the 3.6 makes my wallet hurt. Good lord it looks complex

shehatezme

992.2 C2S - I predict 3.6L 48V Hybrid PDK only and ICE only is gone. This is why they kept the base 992 around (Upgraded to Turbo Intercooler and .1 GTS turbo) or else they could have just eliminated the base model and force everyone into an S that wants a manual transmission ICE car.

londonguy

Base C4 is my question too!

smiles11

Personally, the lag is an inherent part of TT engines. The T-hybrid may eliminate that, but at what cost? It’s essentially removing character out of the car. Not only sacrificing the manual option. Porsche is essentially creating a synthetic experience. Similar feeling to PDCC. I personally prefer a more natural driving experience in my 911.

nyca

I agree with you about the PDCC, maybe they have a PCM option to turn it down to a minimum intervention level, if not off completely.