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Old May 28, 2024 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
M Engineering sells Stage 2 tunes for 992.1S and 992.1 GTS with MT’s. Per M Engineering, the factory OEM dry clutch on the 992.1 with MT is good up to 660 ft. Lbs. torque. I know because I sent them a e mail and asked that exact question. The Sports Classic was built on the TT platform which has 572 hp and 553 ft. Lb. Torque. The TTS platform has 640 hp and 590 ft. Lb. Torque. If a 992.2 TT is ultimately offered RWD with MT, offering a special edition Sport Classic on the TT platform to test the market will be Porsche marketing genius and greatly increase demand for the TT vehicle.
The Sport Classic may be built on the TTS platform, but it’s downtuned to 442 pound feet in this car. The amount a tuner is comfortable putting through a component also isn’t the same as the amount Porsche and their suppliers are comfortable covering under warranty.

I don’t see any practical reason to limit torque (and therefore power) other than to preserve the less durable transmission. I also strongly suspect emissions/fuel economy prevented them from using the 6 speed, which should be good for 516 pound feet if it’s still the same basic box from the Mezger days.

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Old May 28, 2024 | 06:38 PM
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Black and white are the only 2 non added cost color options now??? wth????
There's already way too many black/white cars out there. This is not going to help!
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Old May 28, 2024 | 06:39 PM
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I was wondering why they raised the price on the Chrono dial but it's because they bundled a digital dial color to it


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Old May 28, 2024 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sk911

If I have to guess, it probably vented out in the middle indentation between the 2 exhaust tip (below the license plate) . That area appears to be fairly deep enough to hide vent(s)




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Old May 28, 2024 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by J Irwan
If I have to guess, it probably vented out in the middle indentation between the 2 exhaust tip (below the license plate) . That area appears to be fairly deep enough to hide vent(s)

That makes sense given the placement of the larger single intercooler.
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Old May 28, 2024 | 06:58 PM
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As of now:

1) If you want a manual put a deposit for a GT3 or the (RWD) Turbo (non S)

2) Carrera S is a T-Hybrid and outputs 510bhp. I think it uses the 3.0L but I will confirm.

Let’s hope there will be more surprises soon but it will not be for cars to be produced in the next 12 months.
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Old May 28, 2024 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
As of now:

1) If you want a manual put a deposit for a GT3 or the (RWD) Turbo (non S)

2) Carrera S is a T-Hybrid and outputs 510bhp. I think it uses the 3.0L but I will confirm.

Let’s hope there will be more surprises soon but it will not be for cars to be produced in the next 12 months.
Would they really pair the hybrid system with the 3.0? My understanding of the press material was that the new base car gets the higher boost and permanently stoichiometric fuel ratio but none of the hybrid stuff. Maybe I misinterpreted but I took everything they’re saying to mean the 3.0 will be distinct from the hybrid system, which seems tightly integrated with the 3.6 architecture.
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Old May 28, 2024 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
As of now:

1) If you want a manual put a deposit for a GT3 or the (RWD) Turbo (non S)

2) Carrera S is a T-Hybrid and outputs 510bhp. I think it uses the 3.0L but I will confirm.

Let’s hope there will be more surprises soon but it will not be for cars to be produced in the next 12 months.
you don’t think the Carrera S will be a detuned T-Hybrid using the same 3.6L format ?

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Old May 28, 2024 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pats911
The Sport Classic may be built on the TTS platform, but it’s downtuned to 442 pound feet in this car. The amount a tuner is comfortable putting through a component also isn’t the same as the amount Porsche and their suppliers are comfortable covering under warranty.

I don’t see any practical reason to limit torque (and therefore power) other than to preserve the less durable transmission. I also strongly suspect emissions/fuel economy prevented them from using the 6 speed, which should be good for 516 pound feet if it’s still the same basic box from the Mezger days.
We will know soon enough if silversurfer6 is correct. His 992.2 GTS comments were spot on. It is the exact same 7 speed gear box used in the PDK.

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Old May 28, 2024 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pats911
Would they really pair the hybrid system with the 3.0? My understanding of the press material was that the new base car gets the higher boost and permanently stoichiometric fuel ratio but none of the hybrid stuff. Maybe I misinterpreted but I took everything they’re saying to mean the 3.0 will be distinct from the hybrid system, which seems tightly integrated with the 3.6 architecture.
I can't see how they can develop the 3.0 with the eTurbo and everything else, when they can mass produce the 3.6 engine now. That would be a lot of development costs to support two engine platforms with this technology.

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Old May 28, 2024 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
We will know soon enough if silversurfer6 is correct. His 992.2 GTS comments were spot on. It is the exact same 7 speed gear box used in the PDK.
That wasn’t a reply to a comment from silversurfer6… did I miss something?

Edit: It’s also not the exact same box. The case, I believe, is the same, but the internals are obviously different given the different anatomy of the transmissions. I understand that the case itself is usually the weak link due to lateral forces caused by helical gears, but, again, I see no other practical purpose to limiting torque by such a massive degree.

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Old May 28, 2024 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pal
The bigger turbos at the 395hp level, should make for a nice and clean top end without an drop in power. And, of course, option to tune. Would be pretty cool if they offered a manual down the line on the base cars. Though I suspect they won't.
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I don't disagree, but the .1 GTS is already almost too much for the street. I do like the new rear bumper (a lot). I just can't buy a car that runs out of juice when driving hard and you have to wait for it to recharge. How will folks track the .2 GTS?
The harder you drive on track the faster the hybrid charges, more braking more recharge. It’s super functional for the track. Like it was designed for track use in mind for a better experience, or a faster time.
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Old May 28, 2024 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Pats911
That makes sense given the placement of the larger single intercooler.
It is the same air routing as both the 992.1 SD rear bumper and the 992.1 Turbo bumpers.
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Old May 28, 2024 | 07:13 PM
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https://www.motortrend.com/news/2025...ign=registered
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Old May 28, 2024 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pats911
That wasn’t a reply to a comment from silversurfer6… did I miss something?

Edit: It’s also not the exact same box. The case, I believe, is the same, but the internals are obviously different given the different anatomy of the transmissions. I understand that the case itself is usually the weak link due to lateral forces caused by helical gears, but, again, I see no other practical purpose to limiting torque by such a massive degree.
Yes.

The 7 speed MT gear box is the same as the 7 speed PDK gear box. Both produced by ZF. . The clutch and hydraulics systems are different.
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