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Old 05-29-2024, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 6sigma
According to Porsche, "More than three quarters of all Porsche 718 and 911 models delivered today are equipped with PDK"
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2024...911-36059.html


The younger generation of buyers may be less loyal to or motivated by the manual transmission. .
A majority of our younger generation (under 40 years old) does not know how to drive a MT and has no desire to learn.
Old 05-29-2024, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Breizh805
Not to mention the high end light switches (with great tactile feel) replaced with cheaper generic ones
I think the button honestly makes more sense.

The fake key thing was a little silly. It wasn't terribly ergonomic and didn't really make a lot of logical sense as a starter other than referencing the fact that it used to be a key that was inserted. I guess I understand how some would prefer the tactility of the fake key switch, but in most cases I don't like fake anything. If you get rid of the key, then don't give me a pretend key. That's one reason I really don't like skeuomorphic "fake analog" digital dials.

The key point is to have L sided starter and they retained that.
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Old 05-29-2024, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bobert75
New base engine is actually not a carryover - it has significant revisions (though you wouldn't notice it from the basic specs).

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2025...t-look-review/
OK, so some changes but still the 9A2. The blower is the same one as the old GTS (and S) with a better intercooler.
Old 05-29-2024, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CurryPuff
Here's the dimensional differences between the two. The biggest surprise is a smaller turning circle on the 992.2 and also slightly lower ground clearance.
992.1 on the left and 992.2 on the right.
Curious if the 1' improvement to the turning diameter between the two models is simply due to RAS being considered a standard feature on the 992.2 or if the purported improvements to the RAS infrastructure/mechanics are driving the change.
Old 05-29-2024, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CurryPuff
Here's the dimensional differences between the two. The biggest surprise is a smaller turning circle on the 992.2 and also slightly lower ground clearance.
992.1 on the left and 992.2 on the right.
Smaller turning circle most likely because RAS is standard now.
Old 05-29-2024, 08:02 AM
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We can stream videos on the middle screen when parked!!!!
Old 05-29-2024, 08:11 AM
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I have 2 questions

1- What is the gas mileage on the 922.2?

2- What do you think the ADM's will be?
Old 05-29-2024, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CurryPuff
Here's the dimensional differences between the two. The biggest surprise is a smaller turning circle on the 992.2 and also slightly lower ground clearance.
992.1 on the left and 992.2 on the right.
Turning radius is nothing surprising, 992.2 comes with rear axle steering as standard, while .1 doesnt. With RAS added they will have same radius.

Weight isnt comparable as well, as for example .2 comes with rear seats removed, while they are by custom on .1. To compare the real change (which would prolly be around +100kg) we would have to weight two IDENTICALLY configured cars.

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Old 05-29-2024, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by c1pher
The whole turning the key fob on the left was something special to me. While I like the start button on my M2, I’m not expecting it from my BMW. I am disappointed they also started charging for Guard Red, but not charging for white or black. It seems the interior is slightly cheapened overall. My 991.2S is now a relic lol.
I hear you!
Old 05-29-2024, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Defrag
Turning radius is nothing surprising, 992.2 comes with rear axle steering as standard, while .1 doesnt. With RAS added they will have same radius.

Weight isnt comparable as well, as for example .2 comes with rear seats removed, while they are by custom on .1. To compare the real change (which would prolly be around +100kg) we would have to weight two IDENTICALLY configured cars.
Do you happen to know if the comparison 992.1 car has RWS as well? Wouldn’t that make it appear lighter due solely to spec?
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Originally Posted by TUD
Has anyone taken note that the option for the heated steering wheel has gone MIA on the .2?
I did notice this, I'm wondering if its standard now
Old 05-29-2024, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by InfiniteSmiles
Smaller turning circle most likely because RAS is standard now.
Standard on the .2 GTS. I suspect it is doubtful that also would apply to the .2 base.
Old 05-29-2024, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by adm63
I did notice this, I'm wondering if its standard now
I do not believe so as the optional GT steering wheel is still available on the base, but the heated GT option is not offered.
Old 05-29-2024, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
Ok, let's recap here based all the spec info posted so far to see if we got anything right. Dates posted - other than today - not double confirmed and of course might change due to delays anyway but seem reasonable.


May 2024

Base Carrera and Carrera 4 in Coupe, Cabriolet and C4 in Targa
Displacement: 3.0L
Hybrid Assistance: No
Power: Around 400
No Manual Option

GTS and GTS 4 in Coupe, Cabriolet, and Targa
Displacement: 3.6L
Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
Turbo: 1 x BW eturbo - not double confirmed
Power: 541
Torque: 619Nm
No Manual Option

August 2024
A Special Edition Turbo S (992.1)

October 2024 or same date Dec24/Jan25 as Carrera S
GT3 and GT3 Touring
Displacement: 4.0L - Not double confirmed
Hybrid Assistance: No
Power: 520 - Not double confirmed
Manual Option

A Special Edition GTS Cabriolet (Probably because this year is the 70th Anniversary of the 1954 Speedster model) - not double confirmed

January 2025 (or Dec 2024)
Carrera S and Carrera 4S in Coupe, Cabriolet and Targa

Displacement: 3.0L - not double confirmed
Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
Power: 510
No Manual Option

Turbo S Coupe and Cabriolet
Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
Turbos: 2 x BG eturbo - not double confirmed
Bhp: 710 - Not double confirmed
No Manual Option

Turbo - should launch with Turbo S not confirmed
Not a numbered edition
Hybrid Assistance: No
RWD
Manual Option: Yes
Hello Silversurfer.
as date for standard Targa 4 was wrong, do you know anything more about when this is going to be open for orders?
Thx a lot
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Old 05-29-2024, 09:19 AM
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The weight gain on a turbo s will be around 70-80kg instead of 50 kg due to back seats, not one but two e turbos. When this is taken into account, it needs a 675 hp to break even. 710 hp sounds like such a small improvement considering the current TTS already has insane traction with AWD. New TTS will probably cost $25k more. You can spend 1/7th of that and tune the current car for 800hp. Having owned multiple TTS, I can say without a doubt the TTS in its current form is so fast that you are not using even 20% of the power 99% of the time.

I am also really really REALLY doubtful lol that newer hybrid porsche will be tuneable without breaking stuff. The e motor may not play nice with tune and I cant even imagine the cost to replace one out of warranty.


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