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Here's the dimensional differences between the two. The biggest surprise is a smaller turning circle on the 992.2 and also slightly lower ground clearance.
992.1 on the left and 992.2 on the right.
Smaller turning circle most likely because RAS is standard now.
Here's the dimensional differences between the two. The biggest surprise is a smaller turning circle on the 992.2 and also slightly lower ground clearance.
992.1 on the left and 992.2 on the right.
Turning radius is nothing surprising, 992.2 comes with rear axle steering as standard, while .1 doesnt. With RAS added they will have same radius.
Weight isnt comparable as well, as for example .2 comes with rear seats removed, while they are by custom on .1. To compare the real change (which would prolly be around +100kg) we would have to weight two IDENTICALLY configured cars.
The whole turning the key fob on the left was something special to me. While I like the start button on my M2, I’m not expecting it from my BMW. I am disappointed they also started charging for Guard Red, but not charging for white or black. It seems the interior is slightly cheapened overall. My 991.2S is now a relic lol.
Turning radius is nothing surprising, 992.2 comes with rear axle steering as standard, while .1 doesnt. With RAS added they will have same radius.
Weight isnt comparable as well, as for example .2 comes with rear seats removed, while they are by custom on .1. To compare the real change (which would prolly be around +100kg) we would have to weight two IDENTICALLY configured cars.
Do you happen to know if the comparison 992.1 car has RWS as well? Wouldn’t that make it appear lighter due solely to spec?
Ok, let's recap here based all the spec info posted so far to see if we got anything right. Dates posted - other than today - not double confirmed and of course might change due to delays anyway but seem reasonable.
May 2024
Base Carrera and Carrera 4 in Coupe, Cabriolet and C4 in Targa
Displacement: 3.0L
Hybrid Assistance: No
Power: Around 400
No Manual Option
GTS and GTS 4 in Coupe, Cabriolet, and Targa
Displacement: 3.6L
Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
Turbo: 1 x BW eturbo - not double confirmed
Power: 541
Torque: 619Nm
No Manual Option
August 2024 A Special Edition Turbo S (992.1)
October 2024 or same date Dec24/Jan25 as Carrera S GT3 and GT3 Touring
Displacement: 4.0L - Not double confirmed
Hybrid Assistance: No
Power: 520 - Not double confirmed
Manual Option
A Special Edition GTS Cabriolet (Probably because this year is the 70th Anniversary of the 1954 Speedster model) - not double confirmed
January 2025 (or Dec 2024) Carrera S and Carrera 4S in Coupe, Cabriolet and Targa
Displacement: 3.0L - not double confirmed
Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
Power: 510
No Manual Option
Turbo S Coupe and Cabriolet
Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
Turbos: 2 x BG eturbo - not double confirmed
Bhp: 710 - Not double confirmed
No Manual Option
Turbo - should launch with Turbo S not confirmed
Not a numbered edition
Hybrid Assistance: No
RWD
Manual Option: Yes
Hello Silversurfer.
as date for standard Targa 4 was wrong, do you know anything more about when this is going to be open for orders?
Thx a lot
The weight gain on a turbo s will be around 70-80kg instead of 50 kg due to back seats, not one but two e turbos. When this is taken into account, it needs a 675 hp to break even. 710 hp sounds like such a small improvement considering the current TTS already has insane traction with AWD. New TTS will probably cost $25k more. You can spend 1/7th of that and tune the current car for 800hp. Having owned multiple TTS, I can say without a doubt the TTS in its current form is so fast that you are not using even 20% of the power 99% of the time.
I am also really really REALLY doubtful lol that newer hybrid porsche will be tuneable without breaking stuff. The e motor may not play nice with tune and I cant even imagine the cost to replace one out of warranty.
The T-hybrid was mainly done to continue to offer ice performance with quicker response but importantly to comply with more stringent emissions standards not just idle and slow loops but through higher performance range where current offerings aren't so clean running. So it's not just all about power and torque improvements.
I just saw the new car on the configurator and the front and rear treatments look much improved to my eye, both in sport fascia and non. Significantly better design I think.
I also can no longer access my build code for a 2024 T order.
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