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Old 05-29-2024, 05:06 PM
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So today I learned something new while configuring my 992.2 GTS, the warranty is now 4 years standard, and the Hybrid System has 8 Years warranty, Other than the light Design Package, RAS, and PDCC which are now also standard.

The 992.1 GTS that I was configuring only increased by 15K USD (I converted from my local currency) compared to the 992.2. So for an extra 60HP, 4 years in warranty, plus the RAS (I have not configured RAS on my previous build), I think I'm getting a good deal.

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Old 05-29-2024, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by melhechi
So today I learned something new while configuring my 992.2 GTS, the warranty is now 4 years standard, and the Hybrid System has 8 Years warranty, Other than the light Design Package, RAS, and PDCC which are now also standard.

The 992.1 GTS that I was configuring only increased by 15K USD (I converted from my local currency) compared to the 992.2. So for an extra 60HP, 4 years in warranty, plus the RAS (I have not configured RAS on my previous build), I think I'm getting a good deal.

My Order:
Vanadium Grey (Previously I wanted Arctic Gray or Crayon, but crayon will add 2K to the build)
Leather Interior Black
Sports Seats Plus 18 Ways
Exterior Package in High Gloss Black + Aero Kit
Electric Glass Sunroof
Brake Calipers in Gloss Black
84-Liter Fuel Tank
Tinted HD-Matrix LED Headlights
Heated GT Leather Sports Wheel
Yellow Seatbelts
Porsche Crest on Headrests
Sports Chorno in Yellow
GTS on Storage Compartment
Surround View with Active Parking Support
Lance Change Assist
Inoiser
HomeLink
How is $15K more a good deal?
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Originally Posted by CM991
How is $15K more a good deal?
Compared to 992.1, There is an extra 60HP, 4 years in warranty, plus the RAS and PDCC.

2 Years extra warranty was 3K
RAS and PDCC were for 6K

So the extra 60HP is 6K, the price difference between the two models is only 6K.
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Originally Posted by melhechi
Compared to 992.1, There is an extra 60HP, 4 years in warranty, plus the RAS and PDCC.

2 Years extra warranty was 3K
RAS and PDCC were for 6K

So the extra 60HP is 6K, the price difference between the two models is only 6K.
If you want to justify it like that, sure. It's $15K more expensive any way you slice it.
Old 05-29-2024, 05:29 PM
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Standard warranty is 4 year, but hybrid system is 8 year? Imagine the fighting that will commence on future claims when the e-motor mated to the PDK goes bad.

Sir, that is not a part of the hybrid system, that is a powertrain part.
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Old 05-29-2024, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaye Bass
Porsche reps claimed the battery was completely depleted after 1 lap at The Ring. You are incorrect.
lolz. you aren't a pro racer driver on the Nurburgring. It has over 11kw continuous power from the turbo exhaust, plus the regen from engine braking. You're not going to deplete it on a public street in any meaningful sense. Put another way, even at 0% charge, you'd still have 11kw of energy available as a minimum. You'd never have less than 20% of the system power available even at 0% battery. The battery is just a buffer. While the emotor will provide 54hp, I suspect you'd only see that full amount on launches, and predominantly its used for torque fill and gear shifts, which requires significantly less energy than pushing a 3500# car.

the system is very similar to the artura and 296, and they don't have any issues like the silly fear mongering here. Sure sure, we'll see when folks actually get a hold of the cars etc etc. You're never going to be able to tell on a public street.
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Originally Posted by melhechi
Compared to 992.1, There is an extra 60HP, 4 years in warranty, plus the RAS and PDCC.

2 Years extra warranty was 3K
RAS and PDCC were for 6K

So the extra 60HP is 6K, the price difference between the two models is only 6K.
The additional 4yrs is on Hybrid system - does that include PDK?
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Originally Posted by melhechi
Compared to 992.1, There is an extra 60HP, 4 years in warranty, plus the RAS and PDCC.

2 Years extra warranty was 3K
RAS and PDCC were for 6K

So the extra 60HP is 6K, the price difference between the two models is only 6K.
Wasn't the 4 year warranty standard in the 992.1? At least in the US anyway.
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Originally Posted by Airbus Gangster
Wasn't the 4 year warranty standard in the 992.1? At least in the US anyway.
Maybe in the US, here it was 2 years.
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Originally Posted by melhechi
Maybe in the US, here it was 2 years.
Ouch, well at least they upped it to 4.
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Originally Posted by R N M
The additional 4yrs is on Hybrid system - does that include PDK?
A great question to ask the my SA tomorrow, is the PDK now part of they Hybrid system since it has an electric motor inside.
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Someone posted earlier gts went up 33% since 2019. I just saw an article McDonald’s menus went up 40% since 2019. Inflation is real. Porsche gives us innovation with inflation, pursuit of a better car or at least better track time and cool colors.
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Originally Posted by gulfblu
Someone posted earlier gts went up 33% since 2019. I just saw an article McDonald’s menus went up 40% since 2019. Inflation is real. Porsche gives us innovation with inflation, pursuit of a better car or at least better track time and cool colors.
McD's net income was $6.0B in 2019 and $8.47B in 2023. 41% increase. Lots of innovation in Big Mac's! 😆


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Old 05-29-2024, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
Me no like. Have no interest in the .2. Glad I have a .1 GTS.

Think I am going to buy the new Vantage next year.
Don't do it my friend, but if you have to buy a used new Vantage.

That ways, when you do sell it, you'll only lose half your shirt.
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Old 05-29-2024, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blackairforce1
The 992.2 GTS is going to be fast af once tuners adjust the A/F ratio to run it rich, considering its a 3.6L and boosted at 26 PSI.
Porsche pulled ignition and timing, considerably, to ensure emissions are clean at all engine RPMs and throttle positions. In order to maintain power parity, they had to up the displacement and boost levels. To maintain power at high rpm, under high boost, they had to increase the size of the turbo substantially, especially since they also went from 2 turbos to 1. This meant massive turbo lag, which would be unacceptable. Hence, the electric motor between the compressor and turbine wheel. Without hybrid drive, the 3.6 turbo makes 478hp (+5 over the 992.1 GTS twin-turbo). The hybridization adds weight, so you need more power to maintain performance. Since it’s an updated generation, performance parity is not enough, so we add more power via electrification and the hybrid drive.

I think aftermarket tunes will take some time, since they now need to make real tunes by playing with timing, while maintaining safety. And for the hybrid drives, safety extends beyond simply tuning the IC parameters. As consumers, we need to be discerning and thoughtful, when evaluating what tune we put on our cars. Or we risk becoming test vehicles. It should be interesting to see the tuning world step up to the challenge.

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