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Hi y'all, first time poster and longtime lurker. Its been interesting following this thread since the announcement. I think I've got my spec down to the least 911 I can live with and the most 911 I can presently afford. I'm planning on keeping this car for 10+ years. Here's what I'm adding. Its a short list:
Features I would have liked but ended up leaving off are the sunroof (never going to be the open air experience of the cab, so why bother with the weight and the $2k in cost), PDLS+ (cornering lights are nice, but I'm stretching already and I think I'll notice this 2% of the time), 18 way seats with memory (not worth $2800 to me), Surround view (awesome feature and I can see it being useful, but I don't think I'll get $1800 of value from it).
I'm skipping the manual since I haven't rowed my own gears in 20 years and I will be putting the back seats back in (toddler and dog fit perfectly). My plan is to pay this car off in its entirety in 2 years and multiple times I've fallen into the trap of "get the car you really want so you don't regret it after its paid off", but once I get into the options game I have a hard time choosing between the above features and I end up getting all of them and bloating the price by 7k, pushing me into year 3. It's taking a lot of discipline to stay at the poverty spec, but I think its the right call. Having owned a 2013 C2, the magic of this car isn't in the fancy doodads or comforts, its the way it accelerates out of a corner and the way that makes me feel every time. In that old 100k+ mile nat asp car without a lot of torque, I still had tons of fun running rings around the lumbering "performance" EVs (Taycans included). I much prefer the narrow bodied 911s, but I'm hoping that the 992 makes up for its whale-ish proportions with a monstrously better drive (as all the reviewers say it does). Posting in case there are others like me who've spent way too many hours on the configurator. It literally is designed to draw you into these traps. Some advice from someone who spent way too many hours on this - start with a firm budget, figure out what you can't live without, drop everything else and chalk it down to weight savings that will not hurt you on resale. The magic of the T, unlike the other trims.
Takes a lot of self control to keep it with low options. I started with a minimalist build like you but every time I read this thread, I end up adding something. So hat tip... don't come back and read this thread
time_sink, honestly if you are throwing back in the seats and pdk, the weight reduction is nil compared to a standard Carrera at that point. Why not go with a base Carrera and load up some options at that $120k. Just a suggestion.
That's an excellent question and one I wrestled with for a long time. I gave up a V200 on a nicely specced base with Jan delivery for the as yet unallocated T. The 120k base I ordered had all the features I'm skimping on with the T, along with an upgrade to the 20/21 Carrera Classic wheels.
Ultimately, I'm betting that SPASM, PTV, and RAS will enhance the driving experience enough that I won't miss the comforts I'm giving up. When I had my 2013 c2 I also drove a 2013 c2s with RAS, SPASM, and PDCC. Totally different animal and I would have gladly traded my sunroof, power seats, and Bose system for the improvements to the driving experience. I know the difference is less pronounced on the 992 generation, but ultimately I'd rather spend the money on things that enhance the way the thing drives and handles than on luxuries I can get cheaply on other cars. This thing is for preserving my inner child, not for coddling my aging body
Takes a lot of self control to keep it with low options. I started with a minimalist build like you but every time I read this thread, I end up adding something. So hat tip... don't come back and read this thread
Good spec @time_sink , if you will keep it for 10 years, do you really need rear axle steering? Cool for a flipper, but perhaps not for a keeper?
I always spec my cars if it was my last one, intending to keep it until wheels fall off. With that in mind I get what I want, without features that I wouldn’t be able to fully utilize. Sadly, after few years I get the dreaded call from the Porsche dealer, offering me more money than I expect, and I am back in the game.
Youre right. I definitely don't NEED it, but having driven 991s with and without, I want RAS more than the comforts I'm giving up 😀 And you are absolutely correct that I probably will barely utilize the potential of this car, but buying a 911 isn't really a rational choice for me to begin with. If I'm going to bite the bullet and embrace the insanity, I want the best driving car I can get for my money. I'll let you know how it turns out 😅
@time_sink you sir, have some serious self- restraint!
Ha! Nobody who knows me would second that sentiment. Plus, there's still time until that (as yet undetermined) lock date 😂 if I had more money, spending it would be easier...lol. Sometimes constraints are great.
That's an excellent question and one I wrestled with for a long time. I gave up a V200 on a nicely specced base with Jan delivery for the as yet unallocated T. The 120k base I ordered had all the features I'm skimping on with the T, along with an upgrade to the 20/21 Carrera Classic wheels.
Ultimately, I'm betting that SPASM, PTV, and RAS will enhance the driving experience enough that I won't miss the comforts I'm giving up. When I had my 2013 c2 I also drove a 2013 c2s with RAS, SPASM, and PDCC. Totally different animal and I would have gladly traded my sunroof, power seats, and Bose system for the improvements to the driving experience. I know the difference is less pronounced on the 992 generation, but ultimately I'd rather spend the money on things that enhance the way the thing drives and handles than on luxuries I can get cheaply on other cars. This thing is for preserving my inner child, not for coddling my aging body
I will state this... if you absolutely, positively have to have one option, you picked the right one with RAS. That little bugger does wonders and you made the right choice. The PDK will definitely be fast and as far as the rear seats go, I definitely wouldn't get them personally because I never use them in my 997 Turbo, but I definitely understand your rationale. I hope we both get our cars, because it's quite a wait.
time_sink, honestly if you are throwing back in the seats and pdk, the weight reduction is nil compared to a standard Carrera at that point. Why not go with a base Carrera and load up some options at that $120k. Just a suggestion.
The weight reduction won’t noticeably change the way the car drives and feels, and in my view is really a red herring with the T. The real benefit over the base is PTV and PASM, which otherwise can’t be combined with RWD and the base engine. With the base Carrera, you’re getting a great car, but one with slightly compromised dynamics compared to an S or GTS. The T’s only compromise is slightly less power, which for me makes it better for driving on normal roads.
12-16-2022, 07:10 PM
